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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52840DK Layout</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/100166/nrf52840dk-layout</link><description>Dear Nordic Teams : 
 I find the structure of 50 ohm trace for BLE RF. 
 The left structure(no.1) is from the reference DK layout and the right structure (no.2) is suggested by out vendor. 
 I find your trace reference ground is layer4 ( bottom) and the</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 10:49:21 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/100166/nrf52840dk-layout" /><item><title>RE: nRF52840DK Layout</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/429521?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 10:49:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:50f0df98-7881-439c-9c57-a9038e598347</guid><dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator><description>[quote user="Webster"]I think the layer 3 could meet the same condition for RF reference ground. What&amp;nbsp;are your reasons to choose bottom layer, not layer 3?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;It was just a design choice done..&amp;nbsp;so you can use the third layer as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user="Webster"]Does this design also help to filter the harmonic power? How does it work? (from your 2nd paragraph reply)[/quote][quote user="Kaja Soerbotten"]We don&amp;#39;t have an estimate on how this effects the performance, but what is important is the the output power and harmonics are measured on each specific design and that the radio matching components values are adjusted, so that you get desired output power and low harmonics on your design.&amp;nbsp;[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;The radio matching network works as a filter as well as changing the impedance of the ANT pin on the nRF. So changing the values of these components are necessary to compensate for the difference from the reference design to the costume design.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;Kaja&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840DK Layout</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/428901?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2023 06:58:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:d2cbb824-f5cf-4d92-bc95-915cb46fa16d</guid><dc:creator>Webster Yang</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I think the layer 3 could meet the same condition for RF reference ground. What&amp;nbsp;are your reasons to choose bottom layer, not layer 3?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does this design also help to filter the harmonic power? How does it work? (from your 2nd paragraph reply)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840DK Layout</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/428655?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:09:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:55a1fb1c-6f96-4044-9fa5-b188afacd4fe</guid><dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;So, you want the reference ground for the RF path to also be fully connected to the center pad ground. This is why we choose&amp;nbsp; the bottom layer, to have one layer with mostly ground being the reference ground, and to make a proper return path for noise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don&amp;#39;t have an estimate on how this effects the performance, but what is important is the the output power and harmonics are measured on each specific design and that the radio matching components values are adjusted, so that you get desired output power and low harmonics on your design.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;Kaja&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840DK Layout</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/427948?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 00:57:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:b949aff1-524c-41a4-83f3-28435ef5f475</guid><dc:creator>Webster Yang</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your kindness reply, but I still have some questions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. why don&amp;#39;t you choose layer3 for the reference ground ? (the dielectric thickness between layer 3 &amp;amp; 4&amp;nbsp; is only 3.9 mils)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. could you provide how to estimate the&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Y2IQFc" lang="en"&gt;shrinking back range and distance?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840DK Layout</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/427801?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2023 12:45:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:e0d0f77b-3b3e-43d1-9224-56c17148bbec</guid><dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;it&amp;#39;s to&amp;nbsp;reduce stray capacitance, and make the reference ground for the transmission line on the 4th layer.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kaja&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>