My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 12:13:38 GMT

Hi,

Can you try to flash this hex and the S112 Softdevice to your board?

devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../ble_5F00_app_5F00_blinky_5F00_pca10040e_5F00_s112.hex

After you have flashed and reset the board, can you read out the Clock SRC register with nRF Command Line Tools:

nrfjprog --memrd 0x40000518

What does it return?

regards

Jared

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 09:28:08 GMT

Jared, it's already set

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 09:10:26 GMT

Jiemde,

I did not get the same results

I did a similar test with my nRF52 development kit, I cut the solder bridges that connect the LFCLK crystal, and then I tried advertising with the ble_app_blinky project. As expected it didn't work, after that I tried changed the sdk_config.h project by:

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC 0
#endif

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV 16
#endif

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV 2
#endif

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY 1
#endif

I then reflashed the example and saw that it was advertising sucessfully.

Note that also need to change NRFX_CLOCK_CONFIG_LF_SRC to RC clock source if it isn't already.

regards

Jared

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 07:48:54 GMT

Hello Jared, hope you are well.

I've do an experience: Take an M2 ( without 32.768Khz crystal ) and flash it with a sdk_config.h configured for using the internal R/C. and of course it don't work! - power OFF !

I've installed an 32.768 Khz crystal and the 2 capacities, then power ON ! ........... It work !

So I think that the config do nothing !

Can you explain that ?

Thanks for your reply

Jiemde

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 11:57:41 GMT

Hi,

[quote user="Jiemde"]No, I don't replace the nRF82811 by the nRF52810 myself ( it where made like this by MOKO ), see the picture and you can see that there is no 32.768 Khz crystal and it's an nRF52810 soc[/quote]

Ok, Yes I can see from the picture that you shared that it doesn't have a LFXO crystal and that it is a nRF52810. Which is weird since it's not specified by the product brief you've shared.

[quote user="Jiemde"]Must I use a specific RAM START and FLASH START address ?[/quote]

The program should assert if the memory settings aren't right,

[quote user="Jiemde"]No advertising[/quote]

But does the program assert? Have you connected a debugger and see if the program reach the advertising function without error? Does it return successfully?

regards

Jared

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 09:23:13 GMT

Hello Jared,

I've try all the options ( 12 ) of the NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY but without success!

It's like the nRF52810 cannot run in R/C mode or like the sdk_config has no action on the soc config !

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 08:52:25 GMT

Hi Jared, thank for your fast reply.

No advertising
I use nRF Connect app
No, I don't replace the nRF82811 by the nRF52810 myself ( it where made like this by MOKO ), see the picture and you can see that there is no 32.768 Khz crystal and it's an nRF52810 soc

devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../InkedIMG_5F00_20230606_5F00_101607.pdf

Will try your suggestion.

Question about the flashing:

Must I use a specific RAM START and FLASH START address ?

I keep you informed about the tests

Best regards

Jiemde

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 08:00:14 GMT

Hi,

Ok I wasn't aware that this was actually an already product, I thought by module you meant an already pre certified nRF52810.

Could you define what you mean by "it doesn't work"?
What application are you using for scanning the advertising, are you using nRF Connect app or the module makers "Moko-Standard-app"?
Have you tried using the debugger and see if the program asserts? Does it stop anywhere?

[quote user="Jiemde"]

Here are files

MOKO Standard APP User Maunal_V1.1_20220301.pdf

[/quote]

I was looking for the schematics,

[quote user="Jiemde"]We have some units with the 3 axes option ( but we don't use it ) and no 32.768 Khz crystal and it's an nrf52810 soc in place of the nrf52811 but it's the right schematic ;))[/quote]

Could you elaborate on this? Did you replace the nRF52811 included with the module with a nRF52810? How did you verify that it didn't have a low frequency crystal?

suggestion:

You can try to adjust the NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY, try the other options such as 250 ppm, 50 ppm, and 1 ppm and see if it helps,

regards
Jared

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 14:38:38 GMT

M2 documentation:

devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../M2_2D00_Beacon.pdf

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 14:35:00 GMT

Here are files

devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../MOKO-Standard-APP-User-Maunal_5F00_V1.1_5F00_20220301.pdf

We have some units with the 3 axes option ( but we don't use it ) and no 32.768 Khz crystal and it's an nrf52810 soc in place of the nrf52811 but it's the right schematic ;))

here is the sdk_config.h

devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../8640.sdk_5F00_config.h

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 13:28:35 GMT

You can use insert->Image/video/file in the reply box or just drag and drop the file into the reply box,

regards

Jared

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 12:57:43 GMT

No, it does'nt work when DC/DC is disabled!

I can share documents but don't see how ?

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:16:25 GMT

Hi,

[quote user="Jiemde"]Yes DC/DC is enabled.[/quote]

Does it work if you disable the DC/DC?

Can you share the datasheet of the "MOKO - M2" module, I can't find it.

regards

Jared

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jean-marie — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 09:50:55 GMT

Hello Jared, Yes DC/DC is enabled.

How to share with you the config.h files?

RE: My app is not working on all nrf52810 existing modules

Jared — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 09:01:26 GMT

Hi,

[quote user=""]Hello, I developed a simple advertising application first on nrf52832 with succéss and I'm trying to adapt it to nrf52810.
I therefore switched from S132 to the S112 softdevice and the application works on the NRF52DK dev board, but also on a "Minew" MS50SFA module (with 32.768 Khz crystal).[/quote]

The easiest and best approach is to start with a PCA10040e example in the SDK, and then merge all of your code into that example. The project is already setup to work with the nRF52810.

[quote user=""]On the other hand, on a "MOKO - M2" module which does not have this crystal, it does not work!
I however modified the lines corresponding to the presence or not of this crystal in the sdk-config.h!
What did I forget?[/quote]

Have you enabled DC/DC in your project? Can you share your sdk_config.h file?

regards

Jared