Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 10:53:03 GMT

It seems my hardware engineer overlooked one thing when copying from the DK circuit. There is a supply voltage from the power supply to VDD_NRF net. He was thinking it was internal power supply outputs and that the main supply was the VDD_GPIO. So the VDD_NRF net is not connected to a power source. On the DK circuit there is a power measurement curcuit where the 0R resistor is not placed so it looks like there is no connection. The jumper was overlooked.....

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 10:38:13 GMT

We are wondering about the ENABLE signal... This is driven from the VDD_NRF net, did we overlook something when "copying" the DK cicruit....

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 10:25:29 GMT

Currently I am powering it using the 5V output from the J-Link, there is a 3V3 regulator on the board. The board is 230V powered normally.

I am measuring 3V3 from the power supply and on the VDD_GPIO pin. Measured on C7.

On VDD_NRF net I am measureing 0V or actually 25mV.

I am measuring this voltage (25mV) on a the involved components and also on both sides of the L1. Also on the ENABLE pin 101.

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Håkon Alseth — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 09:37:52 GMT

Hi,

[quote user="tmaltesen"]but no voltage on VDD1, VDD2 or the nRESET pin.[/quote]

If the "VDD_NRF" net shows 0 V, then the net itself is problematic. You will need to check the main power source on your board and see where the problem lies.

How do you power your board?

Kind regards,

Håkon

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 09:31:31 GMT

I have taken a new board as the reset curcuit shown above could have given trouble. Before applying power to the board the whole reset (3 transistors and resistors) were removed.

I am measureing 3V3 on the VCC_GPIO but no voltage on VDD1, VDD2 or the nRESET pin.

Soldering looks very good so I do not expect anything like that to be a problem.

Any suggestion to what I should try?

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Håkon Alseth — Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:13:36 GMT

Hi,

[quote user="tmaltesen"]But I only measure ~ 1V on the reset pin. I have 3V3 on the VDD_GPIO pin. Looking on the data sheet I belive I should measure around 2.2V. It goes to 0V when debugger is disconnected... (VDD_GPIO still at 3V3)[/quote]

If it goes to 0V when the debugger is disconnected, it indicates that the nRF9160 is not powered. This pin should be equal to VDD_GPIO

Have you checked all solderings and connections towards the nRF9160? Specifically the voltages on VDD1/VDD2 etc?

Kind regards,

Håkon

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:12:07 GMT

I have been looking on the reset circuit... Strange as it is copied from the development board.

But it is clearly wrong. I have modified it to look like this:

So a direct connection from j-link reset to the nReset. There is only the filter with a 1k (R10) and capacitor 100 nF (C12).

But I only measure ~ 1V on the reset pin. I have 3V3 on the VDD_GPIO pin. Looking on the data sheet I belive I should measure around 2.2V. It goes to 0V when debugger is disconnected... (VDD_GPIO still at 3V3)

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:30:03 GMT

I really think that the transistor logic should not be there at all, but it is copied from the Nordic DK schematic. Since I was not shure why it was there, we decided to keep it but also have R6 that can be mounted so that there is no transistor logic (also removing U4).

I will measure the signal..

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Håkon Alseth — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:27:09 GMT

Hi,

The transistor logic seems to invert the RESET signal. Could you check if /RESET is kept high? Looks like it will be kept low when the input signal RESET is high.

Kind regards,

Håkon

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:02:01 GMT

I have verified that we have 3V3 on pin 1 on the Segger 20-pin connector.

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:00:35 GMT

It is really difficult to check if we draw power. I have no good place to measure.

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:57:54 GMT

We are using a 6-pin TagConnect with the standard interface from Segger.

I have tried both versions here. The version shown where R6 is not mounted, and the version where U4 is removed and R6 mounted.

Tthe power is 3V3 which is also connected to VDD_GPIO.

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Håkon Alseth — Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:54:13 GMT

Hi,

Could you share how your custom board's SWD connection is routed?

Normally you have something like this:

Where VTref is sampled by the debugger (JLink), to match the voltage of the target, which shall be VDD_GPIO in this case.

Does the module draw any current at all?

Kind regards,

Håkon

RE: Unable to connect j-link on nRF9160 custom board

Thomas — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 17:06:48 GMT

The schematic around nRF9160 is rather simple....