How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Wed, 03 Apr 2024 09:14:56 GMT

Hello again,

Thank you for your patience with this - I have been out of office due to the national easter holiday here in Norway, but now I am back.

[quote user="Huseyin T."]i couldn't find any pc or mobile phone during ble scaning with nrf but when i was scanning ble device with my mobile phone i can find all devices. How can i find or connect to pc or mobile phone.[/quote]

Could you confirm that you had the phone and PC configured as an advertising central while you were scanning for them?
The default of PCs and smartphones is to be a central, and so when you select the native 'pair a new device' option it will begin to scan for advertising packets from the other device. Since a scanner only receives radio communication, and never transmitts any of its own, it will not be possible to find scanners that are active (it is not possible to 'scan for scanners'), and so you need to explicitly configure the smartphone or pc to be a peripheral / to be advertising. You can do this by using the nRF Connect application, for instance.

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:57:30 GMT

hi again,

Mr Karl Ylvisaker i couldn't find any pc or mobile phone during ble scaning with nrf but when i was scanning ble device with my mobile phone i can find all devices. How can i find or connect to pc or mobile phone.

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:36:28 GMT

Hi again,

how can i saperate devices according to its type(phone or peripheral). I am reading device id from "p_scan_evt->params.p_whitelist_adv_report ->peer_addr.addr". I have added a image shown device params below.

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:08:37 GMT

Hello,

I am glad to hear that you are now seeing the scan reports! :)
The next step then is to set up a list (I would create a struct to contain device ID's + timestamps) and the RTC, and then implement periodic check of the list to empty out devices who's timestamp exceed your defined threshold.

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:00:51 GMT

Hi again,

I can read scan data into scan_event_handler at the moment and you reply my question. I will try a create a list(for not reply same devices) tomorrow.

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 15:55:19 GMT

Hello,

I am glad to read that you are progressing with your design!
You will also need to remove the NUS connection functionality since this is not going to be used in your case.
Additionally, you will need to modify the 'scan_evt_handler' to print the device ID of the scanned devices from the scan reports, you should then start to see scan reports about the different devices in the vicinity.

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:20:19 GMT

Hi Again,

I have edited scan_init function(removed scan filter) after that i have compiled and ran the project(ble_app_uart_c) and then i gave input(20 byte) from mobaxterm. the module printed logs as shown in below figure. how can i see active device log?

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 12:05:37 GMT

Great, I am glad to hear that! :)

Please give this a try, and do not hesitate to let me know if you should encounter any issues or questions along the way.

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:26:26 GMT

Hello,

thank you so much. that it what i want. I will do what you say and then report the result here.

Regards.

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:16:13 GMT

Hello,

Thank you for clarifying, this is very helpful for me to know!

In this case I recommend that you start out from any of the BLE central examples - like the BLE UART example you have already linked - and then remove the scan filters (along with any other functionality from the original example that you do not need), so that you will receive scan reports for all scanned advertisements, and then you can create a list to keep the 'present devices' in, to create the estimate.
Please remember that devices might have privacy enabled, and so their address could change anytime during your scanning (which in this case would indicate 2 people present instead of 1).
Then you could implement some kind of timeout or measure to remove devices from the list if you have not heard from them in the last x minutes, or similar.
For instance, your present devices list could contain structs with the device id and a timestamp from the RTC, and then if the difference in the timestamp gets too large the device is considered gone or lost, and removed from the list.

Would this be what you are after?

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:49:43 GMT

Hello,

I want to follow the density of people in a mall or bus stop at all hours of the day.

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:41:20 GMT

Hello,

I am not sure I understand what you mean - what density of the room will you be estimating? How many people are within the room?
Please keep in mind that the BLE radio signals might travel through walls, and so this would yield an estimate with a high degree of uncertainty.

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:37:06 GMT

I want to calculate the density in a room via devices that have Bluetooth turned on. I think device uid is enaugh for calculate the density

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:32:50 GMT

Hello,

Yes, but what will you use this for?
Or rather, could you explain what the nRF Connect for Desktop BLE application is missing - why could you just not use this instead of making your own?

Best regards,
Karl

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Huseyin T. — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:22:06 GMT

Hello Karl,

I wanna just listting active device.

RE: How to Scaning Other Bluetooth Device Using nRF52833

Karl Ylvisaker — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:09:43 GMT

Hello,

Could you elaborate on your intentions? Is your intentions to make an application that just lists all scanned advertisements, or do you intend to make something similar to the nRF Sniffer tool?

Best regards,
Karl