Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

Simonr — Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:56:13 GMT

Hi Magnus

Here on DevZone we don't have any details on roadmaps or future features/qualifications, as we strive to focus on currently available offerings. I recommend you reach out to the local Nordic sales representative of your area by mail. If you don't know who this is, please let me know and I can help you out getting in touch.

Best regards,

Simon

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

MagnusPersson — Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:57:10 GMT

Hello,

I think that previously, for the nRF5 SDK and soft devices, Nordic Semiconductor has listed also a profile subsystem with standard profiles, see for example https://qualification.bluetooth.com/ListingDetails/12505.

Is this something Nordic Semiconductor is planning to do for the nRF Connect SDK or will customers always have to run the PTS themselves for standard GATT service like DIS and BAS?

Thanks,

-Magnus

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

Simonr — Tue, 21 May 2024 06:42:43 GMT

[quote user="molzer"]Or do we qualify the profile subsystem, and then combine that with nordics host/controller into an end product qualification without required testing[/quote]

Correct! Let me know if you have any other questions about this process.

Best of luck and regards,

Simon

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

molzer — Thu, 16 May 2024 14:44:39 GMT

Ok, will try that. So our consumer product, from the point of view of bluetooth certification is NOT an End Product but a profile subsystem?

Or do we qualify the profile subsystem, and then combine that with nordics host/controller into an end product qualification without required testing

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

Simonr — Thu, 16 May 2024 12:30:03 GMT

Okay, but since you're only making a profile subsystem you don't need any of this stuff. You should not check that you are making a host/controller, as you can include those parts from our listings. You can combine a host and controller subsystem from Nordic with your own profile subsystems, and then our listings will already have all the lower layer stuff necessary.

Best regards,

Simon

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

molzer — Wed, 15 May 2024 11:58:21 GMT

I started with just adding BAS & DIS along with the defaults that were selected when I created a new project with LE host and LE controller. The defaults where GAP, LL, PROD, RFPHY and SUM ICS. When completing the consistency check I also needed to add ATT, GATT, L2CAP and SM.

Full list of layers:

GAP
LL
PROD
RFPHY
SUM
ATT
GATT
L2CAP
SM
BAS
DIS

I just tried to create a new project with required testing, end product, LE host, LE controller. Removed the defaults and the added BAS & DIS in the layer selection. Opening the consistency check at this point tells me that GATT is required. GAP is required and LL & RFPHY as well because of PROD (2/4). Adding GATT pulls in ATT as well.

I hope this clarifies what we have done.

Should we go through the "required testing" or "no required testing" process, because at the moment it is a bit confusing.

We could perhaps wait until July if need be, but would prefer to get this finished soon as we are earing up for release soon.

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

Simonr — Tue, 14 May 2024 12:51:42 GMT

Hi again Simon

So, just to avoid any misunderstandings. Can you please elaborate on what all the layers in your project is and what layer(s) returned the inconsistency error? I spoke to our "certification guru" today, and we don't see any dependencies between either BAS or DIS and the lower layers like RFPHY and LL, and so that leads us to think that another profile is causing it. If you're only using BAS and DIS this should be a straightforward PTS test.

It's also worth noting that if you're not in a rush, this issue will likely "fix itself" in July, when there won't be subsystem types anymore, but things in the Bluetooth SIG will only be "components".

Best regards,

Simon

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

molzer — Mon, 13 May 2024 13:52:41 GMT

Hello,

I went with the required testing processes since I was under the impression that we would have required testing because of the used profiles.

So we can run testing for DIS and BAS with PTS and add that to the "no required testing" process?

RE: Testing requirements for Bluetooth SIG Certification

Simonr — Mon, 13 May 2024 13:39:00 GMT

Did you start out with the "no required testing" qualification process? If I recall correctly, no re-testing is needed here, and that the profiles can be tested with PTS as everything else is already tested, you just need to add the host and controller systems as well: https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcomp_matrix_nrf52840%2FCOMP%2Fnrf52840%2Fnrf52840_ble_qdid_qual_matrix.html

Best regards,

Simon