NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

Simonr — Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:48:24 GMT

Hi Vincent

Glad you were able to figure out what was going on here, and I will see what I can do regarding adding a disclaimer of a small leak in our development kits. Thank you for your thorough report!

Best regards,

Simon

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:24:37 GMT

In hindsight, the answer was in the question ...

When I put the NRF52840 in SYSTEM OFF and it still drew 1.5µA instead of 0.5µA. That was the 1.0µA leak.

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:12:08 GMT

I finally figured out what was going on here. On the PCA10056 board, there's definitely a 0.8~1.0 µA leak. I discovered this by using another board with only an NRF52840, and my exact code reached the perfect Nordic current consumption specifications for this SoC.

I initially assumed that this HEX file was idling with "SYSTEM ON with RAM retention" and showed a correct 2.35 µA. However, I was wrong. This HEX file has no RAM retention, so it should draw 1.5 µA. That's a 0.85 µA difference. And that's a leak.
My code correctly goes to idle but with RAM retention and some GPIO events, and it should draw ~2.5 µA, but I was seeing ~3.5 µA. The infamous 1 µA leak.

Dear Nordic team, please inform us that the current measurement on some DK boards could be altered. I spent a LOT of time figuring out what was going on ...
Nevertheless the problem does not exist on PCA10040, measurement are correct.

This is my Bluefruit Feather board with nearly all components unsoldered, and it works well for measuring idle current.

Correct current (SYSTEM ON, no RAM retention) :

Vincent

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:12:33 GMT

I also try this way with no luck :

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Mon, 17 Jun 2024 07:55:57 GMT

Hi Simon,

The DCDC is enabled by default by the SDK or I miss something ?

That's the def Konfig of the board :

Regards,
Vincent

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

Simonr — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 10:14:08 GMT

Okay, could it be that your hex does not enable the DCDC converter maybe? See this ticket for reference on how to do that: How to enable DCDC regulator in nRF Connect SDK (NCS)

Best regards,

SImon

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:29:44 GMT

Hi Simon,

I made a simple Zephyr program that goes idle with full RAM retention and RTC (for Zephyr ticker) and no peripherals. We should be at 2.35µA :

When I use this HEX I see 2.20µA between advertising :

When I use my program I see 3.45µA :

Here, you can find the public git with the full code :
https://gitlab.com/vinkerozen/nrf52840-power-consumption/-/tree/nrf52840?ref_type=heads

Regards,
Vincent

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

Simonr — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:31:25 GMT

Hi again Vincent

Sorry, I missed that when reading through this yesterday. Can you explain what exactly your .hex is doing. For example, is some RAM blocks retained, or do you have an RTC running to track time of something perhaps.

Best regards,

Simon

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:07:28 GMT

Hi Simon,
Thanks for the response.

But, as I explained, there's no leakage on the board since the correct current consumption is achieved with this hex found on this thread.
I see a perfectly conform to specs : 2.35µA.
And at the moment I switch to my hex, current climbs to ~3.5µA.

Regards,

Vincent

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

Simonr — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:13:35 GMT

Hi Vincent

Sorry about the late reply to this ticket. Most likely, the reason you're seeing ~3.5µA here is because there is some minor leakage when measuring power on the nRF52840 DK so getting all the way down to the optimal current consumption on a large DK won't be possible. It will vary a bit from device to device, but it's rare to see a DK be able to go lower than 3µA. You can also check out this blog post explaining how to optimize power consumption on nRF52 designs.

Best regards,

Simon

RE: NRF52840 System ON Low Power almost reached but 1µA comes from nowhere.

icedfluid — Thu, 06 Jun 2024 06:45:21 GMT

Hi,
I tried with SDK 2.0.0 and 2.0.2 and still ~3.5µA.