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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Event during ESB simultaneous packet transmission</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/111961/event-during-esb-simultaneous-packet-transmission</link><description>I am using ESB communication. 
 In general situations, data transmission works well. However, issues arise when multiple PTX devices transmit simultaneously. 
 It&amp;#39;s understandable if packets are lost at the PRX. However, it&amp;#39;s confusing why ESB_EVENT_TX_SUCCESS</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:32:31 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/111961/event-during-esb-simultaneous-packet-transmission" /><item><title>RE: Event during ESB simultaneous packet transmission</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/490855?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:32:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:3e8dfd32-d3ad-465c-8a30-db22317af2f5</guid><dc:creator>ovrebekk</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user="starlight"]If three PTXs simultaneously transmit different data, and let&amp;#39;s assume PRX receives one of these data packets. In this case, will TX_SUCCESS occur only on the PTX that successfully transmitted the data received by PRX, or will TX_SUCCESS occur on all three PTX?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Assuming the ACK is empty the handling of processing the ACK is quite simple, and if three PTX&amp;#39;s send a packet very close in time you could get in a situation where all of them receive and accept the ACK, even if only one of the packets were actually received by the PRX.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words it is theoretically possible that they all report TX_SUCCESS even if only one of them actually got it&amp;#39;s data through.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you suspect that this is happening it should be possible to look at the logs from the PTX&amp;#39;s and PRX, and check if you get more TX_SUCCESS events combined than RX_RECEIVED events on the PRX.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards&lt;br /&gt;Torbjørn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Event during ESB simultaneous packet transmission</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/490702?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:18:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:cee44842-8896-4c20-8d65-4b7767b521ae</guid><dc:creator>starlight</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;1. There may be more than one PRX in the network. However, since the channels are separated, I believe there will be no interference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The data in each PTX contains some change data for each payload. In other words, the data is not the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Through retesting, I&amp;nbsp;will verify whether TX_SUCCESS or TX_FAIL occurs when data is transmitted simultaneously.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before the test, I have a question. If three PTXs simultaneously transmit different data, and let&amp;#39;s assume PRX receives one of these data packets. In this case, will TX_SUCCESS occur only on the PTX that successfully transmitted the data received by PRX, or will TX_SUCCESS occur on all three PTX?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Best regards&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Event during ESB simultaneous packet transmission</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/490656?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:05:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:0bce3c7f-14f0-4a02-828c-54e23b05c89c</guid><dc:creator>ovrebekk</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user="starlight"]We have designed it to avoid collisions through time delays, but we wanted to check if data loss during simultaneous transmissions could cause EVENT_FAIL.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;You would expect packet collisions to lead through TX_FAIL on some or all of the PTX&amp;#39;s, yes. Especially if there is nothing received on the PRX side.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could there be more than one PRX in the network?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you sending the exact same payload over and over, or will there be some changing data in each payload?&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user="starlight"]Is it possible to resolve this ACK issue by modifying the on_radio_disabled_tx_wait_for_ack function in the SDK?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Until we fully understand the issue it is hard to answer this question.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards&lt;br /&gt;Torbjørn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Event during ESB simultaneous packet transmission</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/490439?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 00:34:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:1ab20ece-3610-4a5f-be11-14e11748a271</guid><dc:creator>starlight</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All transmissions are being done on the same channel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have designed it to avoid collisions through time delays, but we wanted to check if data loss during simultaneous transmissions could cause EVENT_FAIL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it possible to resolve this ACK issue by modifying the on_radio_disabled_tx_wait_for_ack function in the SDK?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Event during ESB simultaneous packet transmission</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/488271?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:32:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:c187962f-c53e-40fe-8784-62922c4e21c0</guid><dc:creator>ovrebekk</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How often do you normally transmit packets from each PTX?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have&amp;nbsp;multiple PTX&amp;#39;s transmitting using the same RF address?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If so it makes sense that you might get in a situation where PTX1 incorrectly assumes that a packet from PTX2 is an ACK from the PRX, rather than a distinct packet. There is no particular data in the packet to differentiate ACK packets from regular packets.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards&lt;br /&gt;Torbjørn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>