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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/11218/nrf52-antenna-design-questions</link><description>Hi, 
 I need to design a small nRF52 board, with a 3cm by 3cm size. I am very new to antenna design, so i have some questions, in order to avoid ruining it. The reference PCB antenna on the nRF52 dev kit will be too big, so i was wondering if i could</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:36:02 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/11218/nrf52-antenna-design-questions" /><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42074?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:36:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:6ffbf684-925d-4659-a065-38645bdc9335</guid><dc:creator>billt79</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;After a brief read of the white paper on tuning, i can see that it is somewhat impractical just just put a meander trace onto the pi network of the nRF52, my original plan was to do that an just mess around with the capacitance and inductance values, but the chances of me getting this even close look pretty minimal. Given any values that can be extracted from the altium design, such as size of the ground plane, antenna trace length and resistance, do you think it is possible to work out some rough values for the components in the pi network? As i have mentioned before, then antenna does not need to be perfect, just functional. There is no possible way i could afford the rental or equipment described in the white paper. We have been using the &amp;#39;cut and paste&amp;#39; approach on all of our nRF51 antennas, and we get some good range from them, even with large variations in the application.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42078?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:46:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:16bd63a2-07c0-4dd8-ae13-d07620053eb9</guid><dc:creator>Anders Strand</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;C15 is there for tuning purposes. Have you read the &lt;a href="http://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.whitepapers.v1.0.0/pdflinks/nwp_017.html?cp=11_4"&gt;White Paper&lt;/a&gt; about antenna tuning? It might help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS. Note the small path to ground in the picture below. This becomes a small inductor, making a filter which removes some harmonic frequencies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/notch.PNG" alt="image description" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42075?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:07:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:1bf44f7d-3b9c-4cfb-9b2b-918e9189d948</guid><dc:creator>billt79</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Anders, We don&amp;#39;t really have the funds for the hardware in order to tune a new antenna design, which is why we prefer to use existing designs, however in this case we will have to do our own. We don&amp;#39;t require optimal range, and nor will it require certification, so we will have to rely on trial and error unfortunately. Thanks for the advice, but i do have one further question, what is the purpose of C15 on the nRF52 DK antenna? I know the chances of use getting a decent antenna from trial and error are slim, but i will just have to make do with what i can get.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42077?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:31:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:7d3bd978-0ed6-4ced-8c4d-9f0ebcca7e70</guid><dc:creator>Anders Strand</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The nRF52 has an internal BALUN, which outputs only one unbalanced connecting for the antenna. You need a small matching circuit between the ANT connection on the nRF52 and the antenna. In addition you must add tuning compononents on the antenna side if that is needed when you do your tuning. In short, use the antenna from the dongle ref design, and the rest from the nRf52 DK ref design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42076?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:57:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:bfac66c8-9a18-49c6-920d-3d200de8f241</guid><dc:creator>billt79</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Anders,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to ask a couple more things. I do not understand how to connect the meander antenna to the nRF52, on the dongle reference layout, there are two connections to the antenna, where as there is only one antenna pin on the nRF52. I assume this is because some of the circuitry on that antenna is not applicable to the nRF52. Please could you advise me on what parts of that antenna are needed, and how i should go about connecting it. Thanks in advance for your time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42073?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:46:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:771db078-f951-4ed4-a047-a78fb36e06e4</guid><dc:creator>billt79</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Anders, thanks for the quick reply, i wasn&amp;#39;t aware that the nRF51 antenna was compatible with the nRF52, i thought the internal Balun would make the design different. We already use the nRF51 dongle antenna on some of our boards, so this would be ideal, Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 Antenna Design Questions</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42072?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:44:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:31204476-8d2b-42a2-aa15-e036daa736a0</guid><dc:creator>Anders Strand</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hey.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Download the &lt;a href="https://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/nordic/Products/nRF51-Dongle/nRF51-Dongle-HW/38683"&gt;reference layout&lt;/a&gt; for our nRF51 Dongle. On that we use a smaller &amp;quot;meander&amp;quot; antenna.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When designing wearable products, try to place the antenna in such a way that the radio waves do not have to travel though body tissue. This will reduce your signal strength.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Anders&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>