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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/11274/nrf52-nfc-antenna-and-its-equivalent-inductance</link><description>Hi, 
 We decided to add NFC functionality to our nRF52 open source sensor beacon design, RuuviTag: http://ruuvi.com 
 I would like to ask your opinion about the antenna design, because Nordic hasn&amp;#39;t published (correct me if wrong) any white papers or</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:40:47 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/11274/nrf52-nfc-antenna-and-its-equivalent-inductance" /><item><title>RE: nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42399?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:40:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:1654d0e7-be04-4f8f-94a3-3ed4d79b7acb</guid><dc:creator>Anders Strand</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes. There are some app notes out for other nfc devices, which explain the tuning process. For example &lt;a href="https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=8&amp;amp;cad=rja&amp;amp;uact=8&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwiHqMmYtLPKAhUKDywKHVvnD88QFghBMAc&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.st.com%2Fst-web-ui%2Fstatic%2Factive%2Fjp%2Fresource%2Ftechnical%2Fdocument%2Fapplication_note%2FCD00221490.pdf&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEgUTDFTMzgjGBYyYDYsKXwUw5UrQ&amp;amp;sig2=uohZ0Uso1gE23XYhv2Z4yg&amp;amp;bvm=bv.112064104,d.bGg"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; one from ST.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42402?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:13:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:63ecee31-8891-436c-8720-5f6f5d5b28a1</guid><dc:creator>concept</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately this is not possible as the designs were done in my job (for my company)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42401?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2016 03:58:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:bf133ef3-d8c2-4bcf-b3cc-8e62bea3790e</guid><dc:creator>Lauri J&amp;#228;ms&amp;#228;</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the tips! Would you mind to share more information of your design (dimensions or a pic for example)?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll try to remember to post here some info how the current antenna works as soon as we get the boards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you&amp;#39;re interested to help and to join our open source community, you can request an invite to our Slack team: &lt;a href="http://ruuvi.com/blog/ruuvi-slack-com.html"&gt;ruuvi.com/.../ruuvi-slack-com.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42400?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:08:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:085d52a9-bdc2-4f76-928c-732e8701f8a7</guid><dc:creator>concept</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With the NFC antenna there is always a bit of a compromise.
More turns mean a higher mutual inductance (better coupling) but you will end up with a lower Q factor. As mentioned by Anders as long as you can tune it to 13.56MHz it should be OK (given that the antenna is very small you will want to tune to exactly 13.56MHz).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, the very small antenna will lead to a extreme low coupling with any reader and that in turn will mean a very bad read range (worst case even no read at all depending on the size of the reader antenna).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did such designs before (RFID / BLE combo boards) and the general construction which seemed best for me was:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NFC/RFID antenna on the outskirt of the PCB (maximize the size for good performance). As the BLE antenna is inside the NFC antenna I tend to use a slot antenna. I found that a monopole has huge performance issues (is diffciult to get tuned well) as there is too much intercation with the NFC coil running on the outside.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Such a change may mean a lot of re-layouting for you, so I am not sure you really want to go for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Depending on the reader you want your beacon to work with the current antenna may be good enough to read at least in corner positions (I never measured the NFC RF properties of the nRF52 so I do not know paramaters like load modulation amplitude to provide a better estimate).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope this helps anyway!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42398?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:42:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:63dec3d7-183f-4f46-8949-1526b993783b</guid><dc:creator>Lauri J&amp;#228;ms&amp;#228;</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Did you find the values (130pF) of tuning capacitors (C42 and C43) using that particular antenna?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 NFC antenna and its equivalent inductance</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/42397?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:18:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:7b2b1fcb-9d9d-4510-8964-117754624f0a</guid><dc:creator>Anders Strand</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you mention we do not have any documents on this yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As long as you are able to tune the antenna to resonate at NFC frequency, i do not see any reason why this should not work. We provided &lt;a href="http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/3/ANFCA-3225-A02-473370.pdf"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; antenna with early nRF52 DK&amp;#39;s, you might get some useful info from that datasheet. You might also find useful info on the &lt;a href="http://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/nrf52.v1.7/Chunk237737960.html?cp=1_2_0_38#concept_kmr_nxj_1s"&gt;NFC section&lt;/a&gt; of the nRF52 OPS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Anders&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>