Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

RE: Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

Amanda Hsieh — Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:03:46 GMT

[quote user="responsible_duck"]But CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY is only for when not using CONFIG_BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY?[/quote]

That's right, see the https://github.com/nrfconnect/sdk-nrf/blob/v2.6.1/modules/mcuboot/Kconfig#L93

config USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY
	bool
	help
	  Enabling this option allows you to use NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE update
	  without having BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY enabled, allowing you to use
	  different swapping methods. This will however give you the potential
	  of bricking the network core upon reverts.

Are you able to build this project devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../mcuboot_5F00_netcore_5F00_serial_5F00_recovery_5F00_cdc_5F00_acm_5F00_302425.7z without issue? It is enabled CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY=y in prj.conf.

RE: Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

responsible_duck — Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:35:00 GMT

Yes we use 2.6.1 :)

This is the error:

error: USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY (defined at
/opt/nordic/ncs/v2.6.1/nrf/modules/mcuboot/Kconfig:93) is assigned in a configuration file, but is
not directly user-configurable (has no prompt). It gets its value indirectly from other symbols. See
docs.zephyrproject.org/.../kconfig.html
and/or look up USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY in the menuconfig/guiconfig interface.

RE: Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

responsible_duck — Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:34:05 GMT

But CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY is only for when not using CONFIG_BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY?

RE: Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

Amanda Hsieh — Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:43:09 GMT

[quote user="responsible_duck"]We tried defining CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY in the Kconfig and then enabling it but had no luck having it appear in our .config.[/quote]

It doesn't need to define CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY in the Kconfig for NCS v2.6.1. If you get the config is undefined, try to update SDK via ToolChain Manager.

Did you see any build warnings regarding CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY got n?

Just add CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY=y to prj.conf. That should be enough.

[quote user="responsible_duck"]But what you are saying is we should not use CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY since we should only use CONFIG_BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY.[/quote]

I mean you should use CONFIG_BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY instead of CONFIG_BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH.

RE: Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

responsible_duck — Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:06:25 GMT

Hi Amanda,

Appreciate the response

We tried defining CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY in the Kconfig and then enabling it but had no luck having it appear in our .config.

But what you are saying is we should not use CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY since we should only use CONFIG_BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY.

RE: Multi-image or non-simultaneous network core update example with BOOT_SWAP_USING_SCRATCH?

Amanda Hsieh — Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:55:43 GMT

Hi,

We recommend CONFIG_BOOT_UPGRADE_ONLY when using an external flash chip. Please see my colleague's explanation in this post.

[quote user=""]how does USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY work? I don't see it used anywhere in the SDK (v.2.6.1). And how to enable it?[/quote]

See this note from Working with the nRF5340:

The application core can be reverted, but doing so bricks the network core upon revertion, as the reversion process fills the network core with the content currently in the RAM that pcd uses. To enable this, define the USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY Kconfig option in the project-level Kconfig file. When this is option is defined, you can enable it by setting :kconfig:option`CONFIG_USE_NRF53_MULTI_IMAGE_WITHOUT_UPGRADE_ONLY`.

[quote user=""]We are nearing production and need to establish revertible non-simultaneous updates for network core.[/quote]

Check out my colleague's unofficial example mcuboot_smp_ble or mcuboot_smp_uart.

Regards,
Amanda H.