SPI and UART configurations

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Jamal_nRF — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 19:27:15 GMT

Update: your recommendation is working on multiple test boards as expected.

Thank you for your good support

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RE: SPI and UART configurations

Jamal_nRF — Mon, 16 Dec 2024 15:15:39 GMT

Hello Hieu,

Your recommendation on group1 / UART-TX configuration seems to provide desirable outcome.

We are in the process of testing on multiple test boards to assess stability...

Will back to you later today if any more questions...

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Hieu — Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:23:26 GMT

Hi Jamal_nRF,

Once again my apology for my previous unhelpful replies. I have not touched this topic for far too long and clearly my knowledge has developed severe holes.

True open drain is not possible with the nRF52840, and you can only achieve a quasi-open-drain configuration by disabling all bias/pulls and setting drive mode to S0D1.
Below is how you can configure that in DeviceTree:

&uart1_default {

group1 {

psels = <NRF_PSEL(UART_TX, 0, 20)>;

bias-disable;

nordic,drive-mode = <NRF_DRIVE_S0D1>;

};

group2 {

psels = <NRF_PSEL(UART_RTS, 0, 21)>;

};

group3 {

psels = <NRF_PSEL(UART_RX, 0, 22)>,

<NRF_PSEL(UART_CTS, 0, 23)>;

bias-pull-down;

};

Without a bias property, there is no bias by default, so bias-disable is optional.

Note that not while P0.20, which you chose for UART_TX, can support S0D1, not all pins can.
Refer to the Pin Assignment section of the Product Specification for more information.

Please refer to these cases for more information on limitation of the quasi open drain configuration.

https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/28373/nrf52810-open-drain-gpio
https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/40629/nrf52840-open-drain-gpio

Hieu

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Hieu — Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:25:40 GMT

Sorry I started using a different term and created confusion. No bias is no pull up or pull down, so it's open drain.
My apology again, I had some misunderstanding of the internal pin behavior. I will update you soon.

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Jamal_nRF — Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:04:02 GMT

Unfortunately, that does NOT answer my question

I was not asking about setting a bias for the UART / TX line

I was rather asking about setting the TX line to OPEN DRAIN

Thank you

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Hieu — Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:47:56 GMT

Hi Jamal_nRF,

Referring to the Pin Control documentation, when no bias is specified, the pins will be configured without bias.

As the TX pin is in group 1, and neither the pin nor the group has any bias specified, it will have no bias by default.

If you want to be extra sure, simply add a bias-disable property to the pin group.

Edit: using bias-disable doesn't seem to matter as of NCS v2.8.0. Only bias-pull-down and bias-pull-up result in any particular configuration. Both bias-disable and an absence of bias property result in no pull configured. See: https://github.com/nrfconnect/sdk-zephyr/blob/v3.7.99-ncs1/soc/nordic/common/pinctrl_soc.h#L69-L86

Hieu

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Jamal_nRF — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:34:25 GMT

Ok, understood

How about the first question on the UART configuration?

we want to configure the TX line P0.20 to be OPEN_DRAIN

Thank you

RE: SPI and UART configurations

Susheel Nuguru — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:19:23 GMT

[quote user=""]

https://docs.zephyrproject.org/2.5.0/reference/devicetree/bindings/nordic,nrf-spi.html?highlight=miso%20pull%20up

by adding this property

miso-pull-down

Unfortunately, we get this compile error

devicetree error: 'miso-pull-down' appears in /soc/spi@40004000 in C:/GitAV/AutoVentive/application/build_P1/zephyr/zephyr.dts.pre, but is not declared in 'properties:' in C:/GitAV/AutoVentive/external/zephyr/dts/bindings\spi\nordic,nrf-spi.yaml

Please advise how to proceed...

[/quote]

NCSv2.5.0 is not the same as Zephyr RTOS v2.5.0.

As you can see in the west.yml file of nrf connect sdkv2.5.0 The zephyr version used is v3.4.99-ncs1(same as 3.5.0)

- name: zephyr
      repo-path: sdk-zephyr
      revision: v3.4.99-ncs1
      import:

And if you look at the documentation for nrf-spi in this version you will see that you do not have this property anymore as things are done in pinctrl now.

You can probably do this (untested and copied from other post)

&spi1 {
    compatible = "nordic,nrf-spi";
    status = "okay";
    pinctrl-0 = <&spi1_default>;
    pinctrl-1 = <&spi1_sleep>;
    pinctrl-names = "default", "sleep";
};

pinctrl {
    spi1_default: spi1_default {
        group1 {
            psels = <NRF_PSEL(SPIM_SCK, PIN_SCK)>,  // not sure if you mentioned SPI pin numbers
                    <NRF_PSEL(SPIM_MOSI, PIN_MOSI)>,
                    <NRF_PSEL(SPIM_MISO, PIN_MISO)>;
            bias-pull-down; // Configure pull-down on pins
        };
    };

    spi1_sleep: spi1_sleep {
        group1 {
            psels = <NRF_PSEL(SPIM_SCK, PIN_SCK)>, 
                    <NRF_PSEL(SPIM_MOSI, PIN_MOSI)>, 
                    <NRF_PSEL(SPIM_MISO, PIN_MISO)>;
            bias-disable; 
        };
    };
};