Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

RE: Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

robertfrost — Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:45:20 GMT

NCS V2.9.0 and peripheral LBS configuration are a pretty interesting update. Using a custom PCB will enable just as custom flat caps: custom fit and design, performance and functionality specific to the needs of your product.

RE: Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

calibrexnick — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:43:04 GMT

Einar, following up here to close this out: I discovered that the load caps were not grounded 🤦. Attaching them to ground resulted in the device working as designed. Thanks for your help, time to go spin a new board!

RE: Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

calibrexnick — Tue, 28 Jan 2025 15:44:03 GMT

Here is the crystal I'm using: https://www.lcsc.com/datasheet/lcsc_datasheet_2403291505_YXC-Crystal-Oscillators-XL4EL89CMI-111YLC-32M_C18214312.pdf

I see now that the ESR is quite high (150 max). I've tried several boards hoping one was at the lower end of tolerance - they do enter the application in debug mode so it appears that the crystal is starting up. Could this be a potential cause?

I don't have access to an analyzer but I have used this layout in the past with a 1/4 wave antenna (albeit with an nrf51822 and the old sdk) and had no issues.

Thanks for your help. Also, any guess as to why RTT isn't printing?

RE: Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

Einar Thorsrud — Tue, 28 Jan 2025 08:15:55 GMT

I see. Which 32 MHz crystall are you using, and what is the load cap values?

If you have access to a spectrum analyzer, could you check the frequency accuracy by setting up a carrier using the radio test sample and measurring the centrer frequency? Also, is the power decent, or not? If the frequency is off, we need to look at the crystal and load caps. If the power is low, we shoudl look at your hardware design (antenna and matching network in particular).

RE: Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

calibrexnick — Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:06:02 GMT

Thank you Einar. I have checked the log but see no errors. I was able to step through the entire application in debug mode at least once so it appears the application is starting up. I'm trying to check the RTT logs, however I'm unable to get them to print using Jlink RTT viewer (it seems to connect successfully). I can step over them in debug mode and believe I've set the configs correctly (I also set the build config to -Og)

#
# Copyright (c) 2018 Nordic Semiconductor
#
# SPDX-License-Identifier: LicenseRef-Nordic-5-Clause
#
CONFIG_NCS_SAMPLES_DEFAULTS=y

CONFIG_BT=y
CONFIG_BT_PERIPHERAL=y
CONFIG_BT_DEVICE_NAME="Nordic_LBS"

# Enable the LBS service
CONFIG_BT_LBS=y
CONFIG_BT_LBS_POLL_BUTTON=y
CONFIG_DK_LIBRARY=y

CONFIG_SYSTEM_WORKQUEUE_STACK_SIZE=2048

# Use the internal RC oscillator for the 32 kHz LF clock
CONFIG_CLOCK_CONTROL_NRF_K32SRC_RC=y
CONFIG_CLOCK_CONTROL_NRF_K32SRC_500PPM=y

# Enable system logging
CONFIG_LOG=y
CONFIG_LOG_DEFAULT_LEVEL=3

# Enable RTT and make it the default console
CONFIG_USE_SEGGER_RTT=y
CONFIG_LOG_MODE_MINIMAL=n
CONFIG_RTT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_LOG_BACKEND_RTT=y
#CONFIG_LOG_IMMEDIATE=y

RE: Peripheral LBS not advertising with custom PCB (NCS V2.9.0)

Einar Thorsrud — Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:52:40 GMT

Hi,

Have you checked the log, so that you see if there are any errors or if it seems like everythign stared successfully? If not, we need to look into the errors you see from the log. If all look sgood there, there could be an issue with the HFXO. Either wrong load cap value (causing a frequency offset), or another typical issue is that the crystal may be rotated 90 degrees (then it will not start at all).