How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Hieu — Fri, 25 Apr 2025 10:10:46 GMT

It's good to know that we are on the same page now. Then please feel free to close this case at your convenience.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Taron — Fri, 25 Apr 2025 08:25:39 GMT

I understand and solved it.

I just need to change security level3 and use passkey without setting SC_ONLY.

then it's working with security level3.

Thanks.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Hieu — Fri, 25 Apr 2025 07:17:22 GMT

I already shared how: It is done automatically. If you want to support old phones, you want your device to support both Level 3 and 4, not just Level 3.

What you want to get out of Emil's reply is: Make sure CONFIG_BT_SMP_SC_ONLY is disabled.

It is disabled by default. If you want to be extra sure, you can do so by setting CONFIG_BT_SMP_SC_ONLY=n, and also check the compiled .config file in <build directory>/<application name>/zephyr/.config.

As for Level 3 support, I do want to give it a test to see for myself that it works, but I struggle to find a central device without LE Secure Connection (LESC).
No SDK publicly available right now let me build without LESC... I don't have any phone that old either.

It's exactly what Emil said, LESC is so old that supporting Level 3 makes little sense. If a phone didn't support LESC, it would be so old that it would be barely useable and would be riddled with various security vulnerabilities.

Also, the reason that no-LESC isn't an option is most likely because there is no motivation to only support Level 3. It is weaker, and more vulnerable. Maybe there is a cause for testing too, as I just realized.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Taron — Fri, 25 Apr 2025 04:29:45 GMT

Yes, but i need it cause some customer use phone that released before 2014, please share to set Level3.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Taron — Fri, 25 Apr 2025 04:28:21 GMT

I tried to connect without LE Secure Connection, but i got error about connect. it's not to level 3 directly

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Emil Lenngren — Thu, 24 Apr 2025 12:54:40 GMT

If you enforce "secure connections only" using CONFIG_BT_SMP_SC_ONLY, then pairing attempts will be aborted if the remote device only supports level 3 or less. That is the whole point of "secure connections only". Either you get pairing with the highest security, or no pairing at all.

What phone do you have that does not support LESC? LESC was released in 2014 so should be supported by all recent phones produced the last 10 years.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Hieu — Thu, 24 Apr 2025 12:37:17 GMT

Technically, if the phone can't support LE Secure Connections, the security will never have reached level 4, it goes to level 3 directly.

For extensive details, please refer to Bluetooth Core Specification v6.0, Vol 3, Part H, Security Manager Specification.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Taron — Thu, 24 Apr 2025 06:59:25 GMT

You mean if the phone can't support LE Secure Connections,it will change level4 to level3 automatically?

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Hieu — Thu, 24 Apr 2025 06:36:12 GMT

Hello Taron,

If the phone cannot support LE Secure Connections, the pairing process will end with Level 3 automatically.
Please run some tests and confirm for yourself.

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Taron — Thu, 24 Apr 2025 00:31:57 GMT

HI,

Bluetooth LE defines 4 security levels in security mode 1:

Level 1: No security (open text, meaning no authentication and no encryption)
Level 2: Encryption with unauthenticated pairing
Level 3: Authenticated pairing with encryption
Level 4: Authenticated LE Secure Connections pairing with encryption

Because level4 is not support old version phone, so i need to set level3

Thanks

RE: How can i change mode and level with nrf54l15

Hieu — Wed, 23 Apr 2025 13:22:47 GMT

Hello Taron,

Could you please share why you want level 3?

Hieu