Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

RE: Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

Hung Bui — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:02:34 GMT

Please consult with the test house that you will do the RF-PHY retest with. Most of the test in the list you don't have to do as it's already covered by our QDID. Please create a new case if you have further question.

RE: Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

Wojciech O. — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:36:47 GMT

Hi Hung Bui,

We designed PCB based on your chip nRF52840; power supply, clocks, filters on radio pin are copied from PCA10056 Evaluation Board. Only difference is that we use 4 layers PCB.

Accordingly to your post we have to retest RF-PHY - am i correct?

If yes could you check our Lunch Studio precessing to get corect test plan?

We try do that in this way:

1. https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/MyProjects/GettingStarted :

Start the Bluetooth Qualification Process with Required Testing

2. Fill Form with data as below

3. Next step (Layer Section) generate us:

4. On ICS Selection page we check mandatory capabilities as bellow:

Finally we get test plan devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../TP_5F00_20190719_2D00_0733282828.xlsx

Is it correct?

RE: Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

Hung Bui — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 15:16:37 GMT

If you generate your own 128 bit UUID for your proprietary service/characteristic you don't have to pay. The fee for UUID is applied when you want to register a 16 bit UUID with Bluetooth SIG.

RE: Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

blungreen — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:45:12 GMT

Hi Hung Bui,

thanks for the reply, what about proprietary services? Can i create my own withouh going into Qualification (pay more)? Can i self-generate UUID to use in my project without need to pay fee?

I saw a UUID allocation fee here:

https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/qualification-listing/qualification-listing-fees

RE: Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

Hung Bui — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 13:47:31 GMT

Hi Blungreen,

Your understanding about the BLE qualification fee is correct, you can also apply for incentive program to have lower fee if your company meet the requirement.

The QDID you should use depends on the chip's variant you use. Please have a look here.

Regarding your questions:

If you make your own module, yes you need to do RF-PHY retest at authorized test house. But I don't think RF-PHY retest would cost that much. It could cost that for the full testing, but not the RF-PHY retest.
If you use prequalified module, you still need to pay the BLE qualification fee ($8000) but you don't need to do RF-PHY retest. For FCC/CE you can skip the radio part but still have to do EMC, electrical safety, etc. Please contact a test house regarding this.
We don't do Bluetooth qualification for you but we can review the design and test so that your device will more likely pass the qualification.

RE: Questions on Declaration ID, RF-PHY, QDID, modules

blungreen — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 09:08:41 GMT

If i take the reference design given in Infocenter and add external components (PSU, switch, led, connectors) without modify layout and values of the reference, could i skip the Bluetooth RF-PHY test?