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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nrf8001 antenna feed width</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/14920/nrf8001-antenna-feed-width</link><description>I am using the Johanson balun ( www.johansontechnology.com/.../Johanson_nRF8001_App_Note_v2.pdf) to interface the differential input of the nRF8001. The PCB manufacture I am using is OshPark, which offers a FR408 with dielectric constant of 3.66. Because</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:51:03 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/14920/nrf8001-antenna-feed-width" /><item><title>RE: nrf8001 antenna feed width</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/56951?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:51:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:ec330988-03d2-4cae-8a00-907070724cdb</guid><dc:creator>jjl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the advice! That seems like a better solution. I&amp;#39;ll check back in once implemented.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf8001 antenna feed width</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/56948?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2016 07:18:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:07a6670d-e019-40f9-81d8-e6c5f68c34a2</guid><dc:creator>&amp;#216;yvind Karlsen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After thinking a bit more on this I instead recommend that you use a coplanar waveguide. Calculators are available &lt;a href="http://www1.sphere.ne.jp/i-lab/ilab/tool/cpw_g_e.htm"&gt;online&lt;/a&gt;, make sure that you use one that includes ground plane. The coplanar waveguide will be a lot easier to work with, sorry for the confusion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you use a coplanar waveguide you can set the trace width to the width of the solder pad for the SMA connector, the impedance will depend on the gap between center trace and ground on each side. With a dielectric thickness of 6.7 mil I get much nicer values this was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Øyvind&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf8001 antenna feed width</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/56950?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 20:55:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:d288ea04-73c2-4b85-b6b1-f31b1592a8ee</guid><dc:creator>jjl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I am a little concerned about my calculations of line width. If I use the ground layer (3rd layer), then there are two dielectrics between the ground plane and the feed line. Is it safe to simply use the 3.66 dielectric constant even though the dielectrics are stacked?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf8001 antenna feed width</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/56949?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:54:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:bf2d392f-14d2-4e6a-b6c6-c1f7c4b8cf9d</guid><dc:creator>jjl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;By utilizing a bottom ground plane, I calculated the trace width to be 117 mil. I cannot find how to taper the antenna feed in eagle so I ended up routing multiple traces to perform &amp;quot;taper&amp;quot;. Do you see there being an issue with the taper? Alternatively I might be able to do a copper pour and taper the polygon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/1643.Untitled.png" alt="image description" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf8001 antenna feed width</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/56947?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 07:57:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:058d7dfb-084e-4e5d-9ddc-a48d5c5f406d</guid><dc:creator>&amp;#216;yvind Karlsen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First off you will have more losses in your line the thinner it is. In general we only require that the trace is 50 Ohm, however there are multiple ways to achieve this in a multilayer board. The width of the trace will increase with the thickness of the substrate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For reference the FR408 spec for OSHpark can be found in &lt;a href="http://docs.oshpark.com/services/four-layer/"&gt;this link&lt;/a&gt;. If we use the upper layer as trace and the first conductive layer as ground we get a substrate thickness of 6.7 mil and a trace width of approximately 12 mil. However if we use the second conductive layer as ground we get a substrate thickness of approximately 53.7 mil and a trace width of around 108 mil. NOTE: These are rough calculations, and the values should not be used indiscriminately. A third option is using top to bottom for an even wider trace.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you do decide to use the thinner trace you will have to taper the line to match the SMA solder pad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The length of the feedline does not impact matching, however the length of the feedline is proportional to loss, so keep the lines short (particularly if they are thin).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Øyvind&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>