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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/18629/nrf24l01-range-enhancement</link><description>My company is making capacitive touch plates and to make them smart, app is used.We are using NRF24L01+ for rf communication between device and app. Our sockets and hub with nrf will be enclosed and fitted inside wall. We are facing range issues. We are</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 08:55:54 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/18629/nrf24l01-range-enhancement" /><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71935?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 08:55:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:25f31a14-5aec-453c-8ea7-8128ca55a0ce</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Here is the application note &lt;a href="http://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.whitepapers/dita/whitepapers/pdflinks/nwp_017.html?cp=11_7"&gt;on antenna tuning&lt;/a&gt;. And here is on &lt;a href="http://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.whitepapers/dita/whitepapers/pdflinks/nwp_013.html?cp=11_10"&gt;matching network tuning&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The nRF52840 can do both, talking to nRF24/nRF5 via radio directly, or ESB or BLE and talking to the phone via BLE.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71936?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 05:33:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:9a0c19f7-12a6-4446-b105-e6c520ebff36</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;how can we tune pcb antenna of nrf? i am not getting this point. please elaborate it if possible.
and nrf52840 is bluetooth module? can we communicate it with our hub? or it will be directly communicating with app on mobile?
thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71933?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:50:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:14430d91-1317-450b-a2b8-61208e6f85f8</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;When the environment is complex, it&amp;#39;s hard to tell what is the minimum range the chip can support.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I strongly suggest you to tune the antenna properly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also please have a test with the nRF52840 with long range mode. We achieved 700m+ LOS with 250kbps coded mode.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71931?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:31:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:4f5e721c-67b1-414c-b358-e47b9533f0bf</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;PCB Antenna module is used.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71930?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:27:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:7750d801-4b40-4370-bbed-d34f29fbf00c</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;its including walls and other hurdles like glass doors &amp;amp; windows in a home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71934?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 11:22:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:faab7964-aa8c-4aa9-a91b-c0320f084fea</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;If you do that, it&amp;#39;s better to have the antenna as close as possible to the surface of the switch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you talk about 20m range, it&amp;#39;s line of sight (LOS) or it&amp;#39;s including Wall ? The 250kbps mode should be able to do 20m range indoor with LOS with the requirement that the antenna is tuned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71932?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 10:36:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:b1de6883-1390-4f35-8921-38a1dcffa0ea</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;we have our hub for communicating. nrf will communicate between hub and device. Enclosure are of plastic but will be fit in walls like mechanical switches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71929?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 09:51:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:43c7139a-a4c3-4619-9e85-28639fc47432</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The nRF24L01+ can&amp;#39;t talk to a phone. It doesn&amp;#39;t support BLE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What kind of enclosure you are talking about ? It&amp;#39;s plastic or other material ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The nRF52 has more output power (+9dBm) and better sensititivy (-96dBm). It doesn&amp;#39;t support 250kbps mode  (except for the 802.15.4 mode)  but support Long Range Bluetooth with 250kbps mode.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, for the nRF24L01+, to achieve longest range, the antenna and the matching network need to be tuned properly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71928?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 08:21:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:1835b0a9-2749-4dfd-b688-776d9127cb86</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We will be using android app&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71927?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 08:20:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:eb585873-3aab-477c-88cc-4671352bbee4</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Baud rate is set to 250kbps but still we don&amp;#39;t achieve good range&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71926?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 08:19:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:2c5bf3c0-f412-414e-a6f0-623f7d2a1641</guid><dc:creator>Bukhtawar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;nRF52840 gives range &amp;gt; 15m? Does it work when inside an enclosure?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nrf24L01+ Range enhancement</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/71925?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:54:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:9755bcd5-eb04-4f56-98c1-58a3f25aa16b</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How do you communicate the nRF24L01+ with the app, I assume it&amp;#39;s a phone here  ? nRF24L01+ doesn&amp;#39;t support BLE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make sure you use +4dBm output power, and using 250kbps baudrate to have good range. The antenna and matching network should also be tuned to achieve best performance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For longer range, please use our latest chip the nRF52840.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>