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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/21751/nrf52-battery-consumption-estimate</link><description>Hi guys, I am trying how figure out the the devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../ works or ecuations to estimate the battery life using a central module. 
 My central device is battery powered and it goes from deep sleep to active each 10mins transmitting a Write</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 03:05:33 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/21751/nrf52-battery-consumption-estimate" /><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85430?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 03:05:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:0c1b14ad-039a-4e40-8a4c-40e0b5977526</guid><dc:creator>Mufasa1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for all the help It was very useful&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85431?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2017 07:27:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:0989dc69-60f6-4f94-b978-506739af332e</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds good Mufasa, if you have further question please let me know or create a new case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85429?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 16:41:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:681f1260-c41c-4638-80af-4912b4c9f4c7</guid><dc:creator>Mufasa1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I am using the LFCLCK to keep a lower current conumption&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85428?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 14:41:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:fde39ed8-4830-471e-b6c6-8314cf634fc5</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;@Mufasa: Note that you should also count the 32kHz LFCLK clock current consumption in. If you use LFRC then it&amp;#39;s max 1uA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85427?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 13:38:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:a531d969-0371-4d27-9894-edea91f2385a</guid><dc:creator>Mufasa1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;A approximate consumption for the RTC timer I am using should be around 0.1 uA. I am taking in count the  whole current measure when the device is in sleep mode it is 3.95uA&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85426?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 11:20:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:31a3792b-3d93-422f-b3f2-71bb92e7721b</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Still, it&amp;#39;s not clear how do you wake up the chip every 10 minutes. If you use a timer to count the time, then you would need to count the timer consumption into the idle time current consumption.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85420?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 00:23:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:c25b8f99-56b1-466b-bdf7-15b29d56703a</guid><dc:creator>Mufasa1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Hung, I use a timer to enable the RF activity after that the code goes to power_manager and it goes to sleep&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85425?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 10:26:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:987ccad1-3d28-4a32-98f8-298c846fc011</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;How do you wake the chip up every 10 minute ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To measure the current consumption the more practical way is to use a &lt;a href="http://www.nordicsemi.com/Products/Power-Profiler-Kit"&gt;Power Profiler Kit&lt;/a&gt; and measure the DUT over time. Not sure 10 minute period is possible with the kit, but you can measure the RF active time only.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85424?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 14:28:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:6e894aa1-5e4a-4658-907a-02008fc1874b</guid><dc:creator>Mufasa1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Awesome Hung, Thanks for the useful help :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My sleep mode current value (4uA) is a measure using a tester when the device is in sleep mode for 10mins. I am not consideringthe RTC current because I am measuring the consumption direclty in sleep mode. The difficult for me was have a real value when exist a RF activity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85423?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 12:54:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:a9d725e0-6455-4adc-ba6b-de2b33575f2b</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I forgot to ask if you measured the RTC current to count the time the board in sleep mode ? 4uA is included the RTC or not ? Have you tried to check in the datasheet if 4uA match with what stated there ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My calculation for your setup would be:
We assume it would take 100ms for scanning before the connection can be established, it could be smaller.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Current consumption = (7mAx0.1s + 0.735mA (as in the online calculator for peripheral, similar value can be used for central) &lt;em&gt;0.05s + 0.004mA&lt;/em&gt;(600s-0.15s)  )/ 600s = 0.0041215 mA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The estimated battery life will be 240mAh/0.0041215mA = 58231 h = 2426 days.
Given other factors such as temperature, current leakage, self discharge over time, you should use 70% of this estimation, meaning around 1698 days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can see that the most important number is the sleeping current, if you can reduce sleeping current you can improve battery life a lot. Next factor is the peak current. I would suggest you to have  a look at this interesting article made by one our staff:
&lt;a href="http://m.eet.com/media/1121454/c0924post.pdf"&gt;m.eet.com/.../c0924post.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85422?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2017 16:30:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:c240df5c-9aff-41f2-92ce-ff6d4fb32bbd</guid><dc:creator>Mufasa1</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Hung,
Yes, I have a peripheral adverising all the time to the central. The central is the most the time in sleep mode (10mins), wake up start the scan for 100ms if the peripheral is visible it connected, exchange data over BLE (last 50ms) and disconnect to goes to sleep again for 10mins.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is a RF activity window of 100ms. When the central starts to scann and if the connection happens inside the 100ms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would like estimate a CR2032 (240mAh) life&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sleep time: 4uA (measure using a amperimeter)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sleep duration: 10mins&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RF activity/Scann:  7mA   (peak measure using a amperimeter)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RF duration: 50ms (sniffing)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After use your ecuation do I have to: BatteryLife =BatteryCapacity /Average current consumption? the results are in hours or seconds?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52 battery consumption estimate</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/85421?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2017 12:30:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:df33c158-c35f-4999-93d6-e069176e32ea</guid><dc:creator>Hung Bui</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mufasa,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please correct me if I&amp;#39;m wrong. You are trying to measure current consumption for the central, not the peripheral ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have your peripheral advertising all the time? I have to ask because we need to estimate the time it take for the central to scan and connect to the peripheral.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have the connection time of 50ms, but we don&amp;#39;t know how long would it take to do scanning before the connection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My suggestion for the calculation is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Average current consumption = Estimate RF activity in connection (use the online tool for it) *50ms + Estimate RF activity for scanning  (7mA) * the time estimated to scan and establish connection + Deep sleep current * 10minute - (50ms + scanning time)  / 10 minutes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note that, to be on the safe side, you should calculate with 70% of battery capacity as most of the time the listed capacity is only for optimized condition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>