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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/2500/how-to-control-the-rf-impedance</link><description>Hi 
 I got some questions about the RF part of the ref schematic.
1, why the bias voltage for ANT1 anf ANT2 are not the same since they are differential lines?
2, what&amp;#39;s the impedance from L1 to ANT1 and ANT2? Is it 15+85j? How am i gonna tell the</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 14:51:49 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/2500/how-to-control-the-rf-impedance" /><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10039?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 14:51:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:77b5685d-a3d4-4d18-9bea-51c94daab75d</guid><dc:creator>Reinier Gerritsen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You should use very short lines from ANT1 and ANT2 to your balun. After the balun (discrete L/C or one single component) you&amp;#39;ll have a 50 Ohm impedance and that&amp;#39;s easy to handle long lines. For very short lines, the impedance doesn&amp;#39;t really matter. Wavelength in FR4 is roughly 60 mm, so if you keep the distance from the nRF51822 to the balun much smaller (e.g. 5 mm), you don&amp;#39;t have to worry about controlled impedance lines.
If you are really worried about performance, take care of a good antenna!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10038?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 00:18:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:5da1ab41-08ce-46c0-8018-ec1fa5314430</guid><dc:creator>realealon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s NRF51822, and in the datasheet, it specifies the impedance seen from the ANT1 and ANT2 to the matching network is &lt;strong&gt;15+85J&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The question is should I control the differential impedance to 15+85j?
Normally we control single end to 50ohm and differential end to 100ohm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10037?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 14:34:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:01a7263c-5d8a-4f02-a8d6-179a497bd917</guid><dc:creator>FormerMember</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Which chip do you use?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are two matching networks that are needed, one for matching the chip to 50 Ohm, and another for matching the antenna to 50 Ohm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The reference design for a specific chip contains the matching network for matching the chip to 50 Ohm.
In addition, a matching network (a shunt component or a pi-network) is needed for tuning of the antenna, see the &lt;a href="https://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/nordic/download_resource/20347/4/50329972"&gt;Antenna tuning&lt;/a&gt; white paper chapter 4.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, we help out with antenna tuning. For request regarding antenna tuning, please open a case in Nordic support system.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10036?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 13:10:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:fc97afb3-c972-459c-93d7-1edb5469f5ab</guid><dc:creator>Marc Nicholas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The reference schematic does not have a matching network. You will need a Pi matching network that&amp;#39;s appropriately tuned for your design.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe that Nordic still offer a free antenna tuning service, but you should speak to your sales rep about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-m&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10035?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 00:02:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:b6d07a85-3a45-47b1-b5a6-e1207327de82</guid><dc:creator>realealon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And the ref schematic/layout doest not specify the matching impedance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10034?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 23:57:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:9a3f9e84-ea42-4602-9241-64575a4ab0c7</guid><dc:creator>realealon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Kristin&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet the impedance seen from the ANT1 and ANT2 to the matching network is 15+85J in the NRF51822 datasheet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/nrf-matching-impedance.jpg" alt="nrf matching impedance.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to control the RF impedance?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/10033?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 08:57:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:d57badf1-c1dc-43e2-aa26-cd2b4fc971a7</guid><dc:creator>FormerMember</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;In order to get the right impedance the reference schematic/layout should be followed. The matching network in the reference layout matches the chip  to 50 Ohm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>