OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Mikhail — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:40:46 GMT

Therefore, I can't make all pair request exchange via NFC? There are a lot of service exchange that possible to make via ble. Is it correct?

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Einar Thorsrud — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:25:30 GMT

Normal OOB bonding means that the key exchange is out of band (not over BLE), but other parts of the pairing process is handled over the air. If you want to do full bonding without any RF traffic, then you must implement that yourself as I have outlined in this answer. There is no example in of this in the SDK.

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Mikhail — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:22:38 GMT

I can't understand- can I make OOB bonding wo ble air exchange?
I see diagram- bonding: passkey entry, User inputs on peripherial or OOB
and correct me:
I set flag OOB and MITM to periph and in to central.
next via ble channel I from central try to connect to peripherial. And send BLE_GAP_EVT_AUTH_KEY_REQUEST
Only in that place I use NFC for get some temp key. And transfer this key into SD - sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply.
Correct I undestand that OOB pairing possible to use only with ble channel?

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Mikhail — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:52:15 GMT

May you incorrect inderstand me. I don't want to any RF communication between them until after they have been bonded. Not only avoid a key over the air.

I just want to flash some data in the both devices and they they have been bonded.

As I can undestand, the OOB request some RF channel for exchange data. Therefore I don't need the OOB. Correct?

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Mikhail — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:55:58 GMT

Sorry, a lot of buttons in a page)

If I want to use sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply()? I see this function call in the OOB-NFC pairing.

Is it enought to transfer key via sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply() function? Or I need make some actions do?

Or enough send via sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply() my key? Should I send same key in to both devices?

If I'll use sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply(), another exchange will do via air? Means, The peer's Bluetooth address and identity resolution key (IRK), LTK...

May be in my case best way to use OOB set and sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply()?

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Einar Thorsrud — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:38:51 GMT

Hi,

I read your previous post too quickly. My understanding when I wrote the previous post was that you wanted to bond the two devices without any RF communication between them until after they have been bonded, but I see now that you only wanted to avoid sending the key over the air. That was what I briefly described in my initial answer.

To be more specific, you can use normal OOB pairing method, using keys that you have already programmed to the flash during production. In this case, you provide the key with sd_ble_gap_auth_key_reply() when you get a BLE_GAP_EVT_AUTH_KEY_REQUEST event. You should configure the Peer manager for OOB pairing as described here.

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Mikhail — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:22:38 GMT

Hi,

Do You want to say that just flash some keys into flash and therefore will bonded 2 devices impossible? I need to know device address? One key not enough for this? And without radio exchange data impossible to bond devices?

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Einar Thorsrud — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 07:07:28 GMT

Hi,

I see. I was thinking of something in line with this thread when I answered. It should be possible to generate and write all bonding information data to flash during production. You would essentially need to store the peer address and keys (IRK, LTK), as you can find in in the pm_peer_data_bonding_t type.

Then you would either need to populate the peer manager peer database with that information somehow, or alternatively, you could consider if it is easier to skip the peer manager and handle the SoftDevice directly from the application (essentially what is implemented in security_dispatcher.c if you only need the base functionality).

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Mikhail — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:21:42 GMT

Hi!

Thanks for answer. I mean that I want to write into SD some key and without any radio key exchange to have 2 bonded devices. For ex., flash central with some key, switch of power, than flash periph with key (same or not?), switch of power periph. And those two devices will already bonded. Is it possible?

RE: OOB Bonding SDK15. Question

Einar Thorsrud — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:11:07 GMT

Hi,

1. You can use out of band pairing/bonding via some other communication channel (e.g. NFC), but you can also simply use static passkey.

2. Yes. You can program a pass key somewhere in flash during production, read that and supply it to the SoftDevice as a static passkey. See for example this MSC: Bonding: Passkey Entry with static passkey. In your case you would program the same key in both devices, so that there is no need to display the key on one device and enter it on the other.

Best regards,

Einar