<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Is Flash retention time affected if we erase a page 10K cycles ?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/42517/is-flash-retention-time-affected-if-we-erase-a-page-10k-cycles</link><description>Hello 
 We would like to know if we erase/write a page beyond the 10K cycles, is the retention time decreasing ? 
 Do you have a graph or a table of the retention time showing this phenomenon ? 
 Thanks 
 TBO</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:41:20 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/42517/is-flash-retention-time-affected-if-we-erase-a-page-10k-cycles" /><item><title>RE: Is Flash retention time affected if we erase a page 10K cycles ?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/166524?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:41:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:14166564-c8ed-40d9-bd0c-365a1822a1b8</guid><dc:creator>H&amp;#229;kon Alseth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I cannot comment on this, as we have not tested this scenario.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given that the specification has been tested up to a given amount of cycles, I cannot comment on how the retention time will be influenced by going over the specified number in our PS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Håkon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Is Flash retention time affected if we erase a page 10K cycles ?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/165816?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:06:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:3fc0c761-e58d-427f-ae76-83b2a432e5b5</guid><dc:creator>bonnet</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you and for more than 10K cycles, for example 15K cycles is the retention time decreasing ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Is Flash retention time affected if we erase a page 10K cycles ?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/165662?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:00:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:a333453d-a575-425c-95c2-fe366b5af486</guid><dc:creator>H&amp;#229;kon Alseth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry for misunderstanding! I read your question a bit too quick.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user="bonnet"] Is the retention of the program/data in the Flash after more than &amp;nbsp;10K cycles is still of several years ?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;The flash retention itself is specified to be &amp;gt; 10 years, and the amount of r/w cycles is specified to &amp;gt; 10k cycles. Based on our specification, the answer would be yes. The flash retention specification shall not be weakened by performing 10k r/w cycles.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Flash retention shall be held per specification when performing flash r/w cycles (specified to be min. 10k cycles).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Håkon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Is Flash retention time affected if we erase a page 10K cycles ?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/165648?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:06:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:e82267b5-88ec-43c7-812d-1b9d792603e3</guid><dc:creator>bonnet</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Your reply is not exactly responding to my question: Is the retention of the program/data in the Flash after more than &amp;nbsp;10K cycles is still of several years ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Is Flash retention time affected if we erase a page 10K cycles ?</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/165645?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:02:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:c4f32e0a-5102-4c68-b8fb-4a2095f0c18b</guid><dc:creator>H&amp;#229;kon Alseth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user=""]We would like to know if we erase/write a page beyond the 10K cycles, is the retention time decreasing ?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;For the nRF52810 and the nRF52840, the erase time is equal regardless of the amount of erase/write cycles performed.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user=""]Do you have a graph or a table of the retention time showing this phenomenon ?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Given that the time is constant, with jitter based on the HFCLK source, it will be quite stable regardless of how many r/w cycles has been performed,.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Håkon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>