Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Joakim Jakobsen — Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:13:55 GMT

Hi.

Thanks for all the valuable comments on this thread.

It is correct that you don't have to list your product with the BT SIG as long as you are not fronting the device as a Bluetooth device (using the logo, using the bluetooth technology etc.)

Best regards,
Joakim Jakobsen

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Mark — Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:03:53 GMT

Reply from our distie !

Nordic has confirmed that since you are not using BLE, you don't need to list with the BT SIG as the ESB is proprietary. " Thanks for all for help and patience .. Hope this will help others, too.

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Mark — Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:44:05 GMT

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Thanks, Andy !

Got that...

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Andy — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:11:59 GMT

Well the info came from the CTO of my company and he oversees certifications, licensing and all those things. I didn’t question his sources haha.

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Mark — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:09:18 GMT

Hi Andy, I'm ( again ) grateful for your time - but did your source give you a clue as to where that info came from ?

Thanks

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Andy — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:44:00 GMT

Ok, so I was just told that you don't have to be a SIG member as long as your device doesn't communicate with 3rd-party BLE-enabled devices. Apparently you do need the membership otherwise.

In any case, I didn't find anything about royalties, there's only a product listing fee of $8000 USD (https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/join/membership-benefits).

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Andy — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:05:18 GMT

Although, the company where I was working before was registered as a member of the Bluetooth SIG, but the company where I work at right now is not. I don't think it's mandatory to be a member. I'll ask around.

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Andy — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:00:11 GMT

A long time ago I was looking for information about developing products using CAN bus (an automotive messaging protocol). I found out that if you wanted to develop CAN products you needed to pay Bosch a huge fee upfront and royalties of like 1% per piece.

After sometime I realized that this fee is meant to be for other semiconductor manufacturers, so that royalty you pay is kind of already included in the price of the IC. Maybe this is a similar situation where Nordic pays royalties to the Bluetooth SIG and you just have to pay for the price of the IC.

This is just speculation though, but I've never heard of anyone paying Bluetooth SIG any royalties.

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

awneil — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 13:46:45 GMT

Not confident - just, like you, doubtful.

Your disti should be able to justify their claim ...

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

Mark — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 13:18:59 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to respond..

Our preferred Distie told us that..

As you seem confident that you know different, I would be grateful to a link to something in writing to that effect.

Thanks, in anticipation

Mark

RE: Purchasing meaning one MUST register with BlueTooth SIG .. WHY ?

awneil — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 12:24:38 GMT

So where have you been told that this is necessary?

Maybe your source just assumed that you would be using BLE ... ?