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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF 52840 PCB design</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/49713/nrf-52840-pcb-design</link><description>I am designing a pcb just the nRF 52840 MCU. The design of the PCB is based on the reference design from Nordic. When ordering the PCB I came across a problem that the vias under the MCU are too small and too close together to be able to order the PCB</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:46:00 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/49713/nrf-52840-pcb-design" /><item><title>RE: nRF 52840 PCB design</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/198244?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:46:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:27118fd5-b3f1-4c58-919c-149f639f50c8</guid><dc:creator>awneil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, the per-unit cost of a module is higher.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the &lt;em&gt;design&lt;/em&gt; cost of getting a PCB right and fully qualified is &lt;em&gt;extremely&lt;/em&gt; high; as the OP has found, it is not a trivial exercise - and that&amp;#39;s before even getting onto the RF parts!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/1f62e.svg" title="Open mouth"&gt;&amp;#x1f62e;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s generally reckoned that a a bare-chip design is unlikely to be viable unless you&amp;#39;re looking at volumes over many tens of thousands.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.silabs.com/whitepapers/six-hidden-costs-in-a-99-cent-wireless-soc"&gt;https://www.silabs.com/whitepapers/six-hidden-costs-in-a-99-cent-wireless-soc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/48284/nrf52832-wlcsp-ciaa-rf-do-not-work/191537#191537"&gt;https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/48284/nrf52832-wlcsp-ciaa-rf-do-not-work/191537#191537&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/48816/regarding-the-schematics-of-the-nrf52/193876#193876"&gt;https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/48816/regarding-the-schematics-of-the-nrf52/193876#193876&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF 52840 PCB design</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/198243?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:30:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:e01c7009-f199-4768-8277-16ea19fd61ae</guid><dc:creator>wpaul</dc:creator><description>[quote userid="6462" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/49713/nrf-52840-pcb-design/198230"]Have you considered using a module?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;I was going to suggest this too, but this depends on two things:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Will a module physically fit the desired PCB design (I know some people want to build really tiny boards)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Will the added cost be a problem&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can buy the nRF52840 IC in large quantities for about $4 each, but for the Rigado BMD-340 it&amp;#39;s more like $8. However with the BMD-340 you also get a built-in BLE antenna and an integrated 32MHz crystal. Whether that balances things out or not depends on the application design, I guess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My friend and I elected to go with the Rigado module for our project primarily to avoid (we hope) potential problems with the nRF52840 footprint. We were able to do a large order to help reduce the per-unit cost. It was still annoying to route everything, but not as bad as it might have been with the IC itself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Bill&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF 52840 PCB design</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/198230?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:22:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:5f2ceab5-433a-41f4-9f72-8519a658b7eb</guid><dc:creator>awneil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Have you considered using a module?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF 52840 PCB design</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/198183?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:10:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:732a133c-8a2e-4038-8623-569195cee082</guid><dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you do not use all the GPIOs you do not need vias for the pins that are not in use. If using a few of the innermost pins you could try to use larger vias, but you should then submit your design here for a review (you may open a private ticket so it is not publicly visible).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have also seen examples where the innermost pins have been routed out between the outermost pins, but this is also something that probably comes at a cost. Unfortunately it is hard to get the best of bothworlds, and not expect having to pay extra for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Using many large and through vias breaks up and degrades the grounding of the IC. There are sensitive modules onboard that require good grounding to operate properly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also see this application note:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/nan_040/APP/nan_040/nan40_intro.html?cp=11_0"&gt;https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/nan_040/APP/nan_040/nan40_intro.html?cp=11_0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andreas&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>