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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/52822/fem---front-end-module-management</link><description>I am investigating using a front-end module with a nRf52840 in an 802.15.4 application. I have seen the 802.15.4 stack in the nRF5_SDK_15.3.0_59ac345 SDK. It looks like there is a FEM manager in the nRF5_SDK_for_Thread_and_Zigbee_v3.2.0_9fade31 SDK .</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:22:12 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/52822/fem---front-end-module-management" /><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/216287?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:22:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:967a2891-a7ea-4247-ba44-45c6909fee14</guid><dc:creator>bjorn-spockeli</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi eboris,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apologies for the late reply.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I posted a reply in the other ticket you created on this,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/support-private/support/237886"&gt;https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/support-private/support/237886&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bjørn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/215382?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:45:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:16816d1a-d57b-4a3e-88fd-a020d390e830</guid><dc:creator>eboris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Bjorn -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have been discussing other possibilities to solve our problem of using a 802.15.4 protocol with a nRf52840 and a FEM.&amp;nbsp;We are looking for an approach to take for integrating the FEM control into the firmware.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First I wanted to ask: Could you recommend an approach on how we could solve the problem of integrating the FEM control with the 802.15.4?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The possibilities that we came up with are:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Use a PPI event from when radio turns ON to Tx to initiate an action on a GPIO pin that would turn the PA of the FEM. Likewise an Rx event would create a PPI event to initiate and action on another GPIO pin that would turn the LNA ON.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Use the 802.15.4 stack in Zephyr. Modify the Zephyr stack to add the FEM control.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) Use the 802.15.4 DRIVER and the FEM manager directly. Build a MAC layer on top of that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any thoughts or recommendations that you can provide would be helpful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;eboris&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/214525?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:19:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:706c68db-595a-4f78-95d4-4c5842b4aa1a</guid><dc:creator>bjorn-spockeli</dc:creator><description>[quote user="eboris"]Is that possible? Do we have access to the source code for the IEEE 802.15.4 stack so that we can insert FEM control into it?&amp;nbsp;[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m afraid we do not have the source code&amp;nbsp;as its a 3rd party MAC layer from Luxoft.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/214469?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2019 19:44:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:221c20e8-c555-4241-8418-0afff9480a54</guid><dc:creator>eboris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Bjorn -&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok - I had to read your response a couple of times before I realized what you were saying. I think that what I need is to follow the other path. That is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1) Use the IEE 802.15.4 stack (not driver) as provided in SDK 15.3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2) Add the equivalent of a FEM controller to that stack.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3) Then be able to use the existing example Wireless UART project (Provided in the SDK 15.3) to demonstrate the functionality that we need.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is that possible? Do we have access to the source code for the IEEE 802.15.4 stack so that we can insert FEM control into it?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/213365?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:39:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:9f9780d1-d6b1-465f-b46c-82c8a6c1d8a4</guid><dc:creator>bjorn-spockeli</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi eboris,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the wireless UART example in the nRF5 SDK uses the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.sdk5.v15.3.0/group__api__15__4.html"&gt;IEEE 802.15.4 stack&lt;/a&gt;, which has its own&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.sdk5.v15.3.0/group__ral__15__4.html"&gt;Radio abstraction layer&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/sdk_tz_v3.2.0/group__api__802154__driver.html"&gt;802.15.4 driver&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a part of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a title="nRF5 SDK for Thread and Zigbee v3.2.0" href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/struct_sdk/struct/sdk_thread_zigbee_latest.html?cp=5_3"&gt;nRF5 SDK for Thread and Zigbee&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;so its a different SDK. To get the same functionality as the IEEE 802.15.4 stack you would have to implement a MAC layer on top of the RADIO layer I think.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not aware of any example that uses the FEM or that implements the wireless UART using the 802.15.4 radio driver.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/213249?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2019 16:29:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:dd8f0857-ccb1-449e-ab66-9a5839d52a05</guid><dc:creator>eboris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Bjorn -&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think I need to provide some further information. Yes - I am referring to the 802.15.4 driver. I agree - it looks like there is a FEM manager API in the documentation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Specifically - I am looking at the example project:&amp;nbsp;nRF5_SDK_15.3.0_59ac345\examples\802_15_4\wireless_uart\raw\first . It uses a pre-compiled library - 802_15_4_lib_gcc.a&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Is this the &amp;#39;driver&amp;#39; that you are referring to? I was looking through the project for some of the API&amp;#39;s that are shown in the 802.15.4 driver documentation and they don&amp;#39;t seem to be present. This makes me think that this is not the driver that you are referring to -or- I am really confused. Ideally I would like to get the wireless UART example working using the 802.15.4 driver using a FEM. What am I missing? Is there a similar example project that uses the 802.15.4 driver with the FEM manager?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;eboris&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/213246?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2019 15:57:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:95399889-6b10-462f-ade5-9f4a9966ec27</guid><dc:creator>eboris</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent. Do you have any sample projects that use the FEM with the 802.15.4 driver?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FEM - Front End Module Management</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/213104?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2019 07:15:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:829b7787-9672-4274-b3e8-39ce7e08eb82</guid><dc:creator>bjorn-spockeli</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Eboris,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when you say 802.15.4 stack, are you referring to the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/sdk_tz_v3.2.0/group__api__802154__driver.html"&gt;802.15.4 driver&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;? If so then this already has a&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/sdk_tz_v3.2.0/group__nrf__802154__frontend.html"&gt;Front-end module management&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;API.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bjørn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>