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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF9160 custom board power consumption</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption</link><description>Hello! 
 I am trying to lower the sleep current of our custom board. Right now in sleep, the whole system have a current consumption of 100uA. There might be component choices affecting this also so it&amp;#39;s not really good for comparison. 
 
 If I sleep</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:26:14 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption" /><item><title>RE: nRF9160 custom board power consumption</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/214577?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:26:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:f65cd02c-4937-47ab-89a3-df61da680fcc</guid><dc:creator>Sigurd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="78843" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption/214306"]Wouldn&amp;#39;t that make sense if power consumption is improved when we disable bsdlib?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Yes, the 30uA you see is the sim-card current. (It&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;initialized as part of&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;bsd_init&lt;/span&gt; ).&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="78843" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption/214306"]As I understand it, using PSM would shut down the SIM? I[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Correct. Note that cheap SIM cards may have longer minimum shut down time, or in some cases not allow for shutdown at all.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="78843" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption/214306"]I tried to use this but it didn&amp;#39;t have any effect.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;You might not be able to enter PSM mode with the iBasis card.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Be aware that some carriers put limitations on use of IoT features with roaming SIM cards. Power Saving Mode (PSM) is a feature that is not always available with roaming cards. In that case, you would need to&amp;nbsp;order an IoT SIM from your local carrier.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Use&amp;nbsp;&lt;a class="" title="Network registration status +CEREG" href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/ref_at_commands/REF/at_commands/nw_service/cereg.html?cp=2_1_6_8"&gt;&amp;nbsp;+CEREG&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;with level 5, to see if you are able to enter PSM or not. Alternatively &lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/ref_at_commands/REF/at_commands/nw_service/xmonitor_set.html?cp=2_1_6_13_0"&gt;%XMONITOR&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="78843" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption/214306"]Is there any other way to shut the SIM down to see if that is the culprit?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;No. AFAIK 3GPP only allows you to shutdown in PSM and eDRX(not supported by all sim-cards). But again,&amp;nbsp;the culprit for the 30 uA is the SIM card.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="78843" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/52856/nrf9160-custom-board-power-consumption"]If I use bsd_shutdown it will consume a couple of mA during sleep.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href="https://github.com/sigurdnev/fw-nrfconnect-nrf/tree/master/samples/nrf9160/system_off_mode"&gt;this sample&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on how to use system off mode.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF9160 custom board power consumption</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/214306?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2019 09:05:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:6d9d06ad-4598-4d33-81d7-017a9ecb8dcf</guid><dc:creator>joakimsaaz</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Sigurd. Thanks for the answer &lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/1f642.svg" title="Slight smile"&gt;&amp;#x1f642;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;100uA is for the whole system, measuring from power supply. It is me looking at the multimeter and see it not change, so I guess it is the static base-line current. :)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I said, there are other components and they are most likely responsible for 60-70uA. We will soon make some changes to confirm this. As we can lower the consumption by around 30uA if we disable bsdlib, I believe that is the main problem. After I made the first post I found some info that the SIM-card could be responsible for a current draw of around 30uA. Wouldn&amp;#39;t that make sense if power consumption is improved when we disable bsdlib?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I understand it, using PSM would shut down the SIM? I tried to use this but it didn&amp;#39;t have any effect.&lt;br /&gt; (Tested RPTAU=10mins, RAT=1min and RPTAU=31hours, RAT=1min)&lt;br /&gt;However, after sending a message and before going to sleep, we set AT+CGATT=0, AT+CFUN=4, AT+CFUN=0. If that can somehow affect anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there any other way to shut the SIM down to see if that is the culprit? I couldn&amp;#39;t find any AT-command for it, but perhaps I am stupid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To answer your other questions, there shouldn&amp;#39;t be any timers. At least not any that I am aware of. And CONFIG_SERIAL=n should also be set for SPM and MCUboot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF9160 custom board power consumption</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/213980?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 15:28:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:5271a6fb-49ce-4ac8-b5e2-4eed3eb4807b</guid><dc:creator>Sigurd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is 100uA the average current, or static base-line current? How are you measuring it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have any timers running, that is waking up the CPU ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have&amp;nbsp;CONFIG_SERIAL=n for SPM and MCUboot also ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>