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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/5678/ant-or-ble-for-a-p2p-application</link><description>Hi, 
 I&amp;#39;m designing a wearable, low power inertial and EMG system and have to choose between using ANT+ or BLE with the Nrf51422 on my own board. 
 The system would simply be a P2P with the wearable sending data for most of the time (Maybe receiving</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:47:12 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/5678/ant-or-ble-for-a-p2p-application" /><item><title>RE: ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/19904?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:47:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:7acba1f8-a6e4-4aa6-9e52-fce7209f1e72</guid><dc:creator>sslap</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;One last small thing: You&amp;#39;re saying that the development dongle can handle 128kbps but with which softdevice is this than? Because as said the S120 cannot handle this data throughput and S110 isn&amp;#39;t really made as a continuous reciever or am I wrong?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/19902?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:36:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:3ebd4ef6-4234-4a32-8f8d-2d6a0292bbd4</guid><dc:creator>sslap</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;the battery isn&amp;#39;t fixed yet but it would be a 3V  or if needed 3.7V. I think the size of battery will more be specified by the needed power (it will be a rechareble battery that is certain)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/19901?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:41:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:245b7a98-1ce2-435a-81c9-ad06470535e9</guid><dc:creator>Petter Myhre</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;So your device needs to send 11 bytes every 1 ms? Which means a data rate of 11*8/0.001 kbps = 88kbps. And you need a lifetime of at least 24 hours. What kind of battery are you planning to use?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/19903?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:19:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:e4b27b09-bf5d-4961-94d8-6bd2e0e9baa1</guid><dc:creator>Petter Myhre</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The ANT protocol is simpler. It is up to the application to implement more advanced features.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The BLE protocol is more complex, more robust, and more secure. It includes more advanced features.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your question only includes information about the required data rate, which makes it very challenging to have an opinion on what protocol that is best for your application.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edit 24.02:
So you need a data rate of 88kbps, and you want to use as little power as possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If 88kbps is an absolute requirement, ANT can&amp;#39;t be used, it has a maximum data rate of 60kbps, using Advanced Burst Data, please see Section 5.4.4 in &amp;quot;ANT Message Protocol and Usage&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With BLE, 128kbps is possible, please see &lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/question/3440/how-do-i-calculate-throughput-for-a-ble-link/"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, but it depends on the devices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our peripheral stack(S110) can send 6 packets of 20B in each connection interval, and have a connection interval of 7.5ms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, our central stack(S120) can only recieve 1 packet of 20B in each connection interval, and have connection interval of 7.5ms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This gives a data rate of 20*8/0.0075 kbps = 21.3 kbps. Not good enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our development dongle can handle 6 packets of 20B in each connection interval, and have a connection interval of 7.5ms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This gives a data rate of 20 * 8 * 6/0.0075 kbps = 128 kbps. Good enough, but our development dongle is not a standalone Bluetooth device, so you need driver on the PC to control it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/19900?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:06:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:ed11dc31-04d8-49de-9c48-dc9363cf0197</guid><dc:creator>sslap</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;For the moment it is a Nrf51422 as sender and the Nrf51822 dongle as reciever (PCA10001). In a further design it will be two senders and one reciever&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: ANT+ or BLE for a P2P application</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/19899?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:22:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:417e5459-a1f2-44ed-9b8c-fd811344f5d3</guid><dc:creator>Petter Myhre</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Are you using an nRF51 on both sides of the link? Or something else?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>