Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

TIE Fighter — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:35:22 GMT

Hi,

There is a port for the nRF8001 library and example for the STM32 using Maple. The source has been tested on the Maple from leaflabs, You can find the source code in the link below.

http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=13444

This is a port of the Arduino SDK for nRF8001 to the Maple (STM32) Hope it works for you

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Ole Morten — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:31:57 GMT

No problem. To clear up this discussion, I'll mark one of my answers above as accepted, since that seems to be the one that best answers the original question.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

michurin — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:40:46 GMT

Thank you for the DHL package, Can't wait to receive it and as sign of my gratitude promise to ask you gazillion more questions :)

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Ole Morten — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:55:06 GMT

Sorry for the delay, but I had to check this internally. If you supply me with an address to ship it to in a private message, I'll make sure an nRF51822 Development Kit is sent your way.

As I said previously, there is work ongoing on making an official release and structure for the Arduino SDK, which should be a lot easier to port to a regular AVR as well, compared to the normal nRF8001 SDK. This effort should result in a public release hopefully next week. You can take a look at the forum thread I linked to, and the webinar there, if you want to get started with an Arduino or similar right away: http://forumarchive.bluetooth.org/Pages/Forum.aspx?action=ViewPosts&fid=6&tid=63

As for your trouble with the nRF8001 kit, I suggest we take this in the support portal, since it seems that it will be a lot of back and forth, rather than a single question and answer, and that fits better in the support portal workflow.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

michurin — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:11:58 GMT

Guys,

Sorry for my frustration: I've actually spent over $650. The first Devkit was used, damaged and didn't have a key, so I had to buy a replacement, ship it back and still waiting for refund. All my purchases were with expedited shipping i.e. expensive. And I was waiting literally weeks to be able to start.

ARM chip is much better and I'm gladly accepting your offer > The only thing I could offer as a compensation would have been to check if I were allowed to send you a nRF51822 Development Kit for free, but it seems you're not very interested in that.

BTW STM32 is one of my potential choices as well as AVR: I'm currently using both.

I was able yesterday to run HRM, so today my mood is better.

My goal still the same: to run examples using DEBUG mode and see interaction with the ACI library. Looks like to me the only major thing needs to be done migrating to any different MCU is to port hal library. Is AVR(8-bit) library available?

Thanks Gil, thanks Ole: "The same things look different through the prism of time." I'm moving forward but not as fast as I'd like and time zone difference takes huge toll as well.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Ole Morten — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:31:55 GMT

We do try to answer equally good and fast here as in the support portal, so as long there is no confidential information that you need to share, we would normally prefer things to be asked here. The great benefit here is that everyone get to see the question and answer, and hopefully become wiser, while in the support portal everything has to be written to each specific customer.

However, you are of course free to choose where to post yourself. :-)

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Ole Morten — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 05:35:34 GMT

Yes, the limitation is actually 2 kB per default, but it can be extended to 4 kB using the key that is available in the nRFgo SDK. Unfortunately, that is still too small for the SDK examples to be usable... 32 kB is as you say much better!

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Ole Morten — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 05:31:32 GMT

The nRF8001 Development Kit, which I've understood you have, is still necessary if you want to use an Arduino. Unfortunately, I cannot give you a refund for your starter kit, since we don't sell directly to customers. I would however recommend you to check with the distributor you bought them from, what kind of return policy they have.

The only thing I could offer as a compensation would have been to check if I were allowed to send you a nRF51822 Development Kit for free, but it seems you're not very interested in that.

Also, using the Starter Kit and the Development Kit, even without C51, you can flash the precompiled examples, run them and see how they behave, both from the Master Control Panel and other BLE devices (iOS, Android 4.3). The precompiled examples are not usable without the Starter Kit, so traditionally we have said that it's easier to get started when you have both, than when you only have the Development Kit. This will most likely change with the full release of the Arduino SDK, once the documentation and all examples are up to speed there.

Again, I'm sorry for your trouble, and that you feel you have wasted money, but unfortunately I can not refund you, only try to make the best out of what you have now.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Gil DePaula — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:21:24 GMT

Boris, I recommend that you use your support page more often, instead of the developer zone. You probably already have, but you get more/quicker answers there. Take care, Gil

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michurin — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:07:55 GMT

Gil,

I didn't say one bad word about support team quality, did I? All my complains that I haven't receive sufficient support.

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Gil DePaula — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:02:24 GMT

Boris, I will have to disagree with you about the support. Their support team is GREAT. All of them are VERY qualified and VERY helpful.

I have used the nRF24L01 and nRF8001 in the past and currently use the nRF51822. Their products and support are FANTASTIC!

Cheers, Gil

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Guest — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:49:56 GMT

I believe the limitation is 4 kB, which unfortunately is quite limiting.

For the ARM compiler (nRF51822) you get 32 kB, which is much more useful ;)

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Bastiaan — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:49:56 GMT

I believe the limitation is 4 kB, which unfortunately is quite limiting.

For the ARM compiler (nRF51822) you get 32 kB, which is much more useful ;)

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

michurin — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:47:56 GMT

Guys,

I can say for sure that have or ever had any plans at all to use 51 family mcu. My plan is to learn how to deal with ble and to figure out how would it helpful to use nordics products in our designs.

So far I'm extremely disappointed but not with the product, cause I'm not able to test it, but mostly with the qualify of support: apparently I've spent money for the wrong stuff and still have troubles to test it.

Appreciate your involvement Gil.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Gil DePaula — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:36:12 GMT

Hi Ole, Thanks for helping him out.

Another alternative: If Boris' first application/proof of concept code takes less than 8 kB, he can download/use the Keil C51 compiler for free. Then later on, if he decides to develop a real product, and the code grows beyond 8 kB, he can purchase the license.

Cheers, Gil

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michurin — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:58:00 GMT

Could you replace the Dev kit for free? Is there anywhere else one can find such recommendations? My guess is that the answer for both questions is "NO".

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Ole Morten — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:34:01 GMT

I'm terribly sorry for the inconvenience here, but I believe that this question has also been handled in the support system.

The current best way to get started with the nRF8001 is to use an Arduino and the SDK that is supplied here. This elimintates the need for both the nRFgo Starter Kit and the C51 compiler, making it a lot cheaper, and should also be a much easier way to get started.

This solution and the accompanying SDK will soon be distributed in a more formal way.

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Gil dePaula — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:39:35 GMT

Oh, ok. In your case it's the C51 compiler. I haven't used that. Sorry. Good luck.

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michurin — Sat, 05 Oct 2013 00:04:21 GMT

nRF8001-SDK

The carrier board is nRF2735.

Thanks.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Gil dePaula — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 22:08:50 GMT

Boris, The nRF51822 device and EK/SDK are ARM-based products. The device not an 8051-based chip. You should install the Keil ARM compiler.

The nRF8001 SDK is for a Nordic CPU that is 8051-based. In that case you need the Keil C51 compiler/tools.

Which one are you using?

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

michurin — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:43:47 GMT

Thank you for yor help!

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

aaronxu — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:42:05 GMT

it's your problem, not others. Read document!

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

michurin — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:51:20 GMT

As I stated before I have installed, uninstalled and reinstalled in the following order: Keil C51, nRFGoStudio, SDK

Should I have Keil for ARM? SDK has 51-family MCU.

At this time can't express my frustration: Why there is no clear documentation? Why one need help for so simple and obvious stuff Why is it taking so long to get support? I didn't try to save money but to save time to get started and ...wasted both.

RE: Spent $500 and still can't start :-(

Gil dePaula — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:42:50 GMT

You should first install the compiler and IDE (Keil or other).
Then you install the Nordic EK, or DK, etc.
The Keil examples should be here: C:\Keil\ARM\Device\Nordic\nrf51822\Board\ for all the boards.

In my case, with an Keil and an EK, the "Blinky" example project file (blinky.uvproj) is here:

C:\Keil\ARM\Device\Nordic\nrf51822\Board\pca10001\blinky_example\arm