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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/63521/nrf52840-battery-life-estimation</link><description>Hi, 
 I would like to ask a question about the estimation of battery life regarding to advertisement period and idle &amp;amp; disconnection period. In my ble_app_uart example, peripheral device will wake up periodically by using app_timer. Also, 3.7 V - 250</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:15:05 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/63521/nrf52840-battery-life-estimation" /><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259384?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:15:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:1c501633-a1ed-41e4-9bd2-4362882ab64e</guid><dc:creator>awneil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt=" " src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/6787._5F00_Verify_2D00_answer_2D00_nordic_5F00_2.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259381?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:04:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:5ecc825c-eab8-4103-827a-6ba7a063b61d</guid><dc:creator>OpenCircuit</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that&amp;#39;s right. I just wondered that if I should consider any BLE events, radio etc. during consumption. Now I learned that the average values are enough for estimation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259380?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 08:45:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:fc727f38-f531-4d52-8733-c080f1285b18</guid><dc:creator>awneil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Also, don&amp;#39;t forget that real batteries are not perfect:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;they have self-discharge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;their actual capacity varies depending on the nature of the load&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;different manufacturers have differing definitions of when a battery is considered &amp;quot;exhausted&amp;quot;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;etc&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, this is not specific to Nordic - it applies to &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;any&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/em&gt;battery-powered system&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259373?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 08:34:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:a4af8c0a-1761-4090-acce-b186c2c2eedf</guid><dc:creator>OpenCircuit</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the contribution Awneil.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259372?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 08:33:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:75c284da-ef96-4b95-80de-7b074172436d</guid><dc:creator>OpenCircuit</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the explanation Stian.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I consider my scenario, there are 4 states : advertising, idle, connection &amp;amp; transmission, idle and their average currents are 1280 uA, 4.3uA, 1110 uA and 4.3 uA respectively. In seconds, their durations are 2 seconds, 600 seconds, 2 seconds and 600 seconds and their activeness ratio of the time are 0.17%, 49.83%, 0.17% and 49.83% respectively.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The total product lifetime = (0.0017*1280)+(49.83*4.3)+(0.0017*1110)+(49.83*4.3) = 8.343 uA. If we have 100 mAh battery, it is 100mAh / 0.0083 mA = 11986 hours and 499 days approximately.&amp;nbsp; In estimation it&amp;nbsp; is really high.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So the time unit doesn&amp;#39;t matter if we have ratios of the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, peripheral device has operation voltage interval (1.7 V - 3.6 V). So I think the device won&amp;#39;t be active for 499 days in estimation, will it ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259197?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:58:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:d9822529-ebdc-4c2d-bef6-2573369dd913</guid><dc:creator>awneil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Clearly, average values are only going to give an &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;estimate&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; - only you can decide whether that &lt;em&gt;estimate&lt;/em&gt; is good enough for &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;your&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; requirements.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The basic concept is that a battery is a store of &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;energy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; - so what you really need to know is how your system uses up &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;energy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Generally, a system will have a number of states; eg, idle, transmitting, processing. SO you will need to work out how much energy it uses in each state, and how long it spends in each state - then use that to work out how long it will take to use up all the energy in the battery.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is basic physics - not specific to nRF ...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/259188?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:50:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:4bb6dcbb-91fb-452b-9cd9-f653c3a9ae30</guid><dc:creator>Stian R&amp;#248;ed Hafskjold</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, you use the average current to get the battery life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You divide the battery charge with the average current and you get the battery life time: mAh / mA = h&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you have different &amp;quot;average currents&amp;quot; based on the application state, you need to figure out an estimate on how long your product is in each state. Example: Let&amp;#39;s say it&amp;#39;s advertising 90% of the time and in connection 10% of the time; and the average current during advertising is 20uA and 500uA during connection, you get 0.9*20+0.1*500 = 68 uA in total average during the product lifetime. Then if you have a 100mAh battery, the battery life time will be 100mAh/0.068mA = 1471 hours.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/258984?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:49:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:b2040e41-5a17-401c-a573-7313a9d1bf90</guid><dc:creator>OpenCircuit</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It shows the average current. My measuements are average and don&amp;#39;t have a time unit. Is it correct way to calculate battery life directly with these average current values ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52840 Battery Life Estimation</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/258979?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:33:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:559a77fc-183d-4a16-b5af-df861153aa7a</guid><dc:creator>awneil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/nordic/power/w/opp"&gt;https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/nordic/power/w/opp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>