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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>[nRF52840] Poor RF Performance on Custom PCB with Chip Antenna</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/65729/nrf52840-poor-rf-performance-on-custom-pcb-with-chip-antenna</link><description>Hi, 
 
 I have a custom PCB using the Johanson 2450AT18A100E chip antenna. For some reason, I&amp;#39;m getting extremely subpar RF performance and so I&amp;#39;m taking a second look at my RF path. Is my signal path out of the ANT pin of the nRF52840-CKAA through to</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:52:11 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/65729/nrf52840-poor-rf-performance-on-custom-pcb-with-chip-antenna" /><item><title>RE: [nRF52840] Poor RF Performance on Custom PCB with Chip Antenna</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/269193?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:52:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:caadfb8c-e8ef-467b-b860-43c7ab8c4908</guid><dc:creator>ketiljo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, C16 and L7, sorry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s preferable to have a ground plane instead of a power plane. From a AC point of view, they are the same, but you can&amp;#39;t connect the power plane to the ground plane the same way you could do with an inner ground plane. It&amp;#39;s important to use plenty of vias to connect the different ground planes together for a low impedance ground connection.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: [nRF52840] Poor RF Performance on Custom PCB with Chip Antenna</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/268807?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:04:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:538521c0-1248-4849-86e5-b095b9145bbe</guid><dc:creator>mkimhj</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hey ketiljo,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the tips. When you say C1 and C7, you&amp;#39;re referring to C16 and L7 on my schematic, correct?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TP19 was placed down so that the chip antenna could be reworked with a UFL connector for test and debug purposes. Plan on removing this for future iterations.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The bottom side is actually a 1v8 power plane instead of a ground plane... Do you think this is what&amp;#39;s causing the lackluster performance?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: [nRF52840] Poor RF Performance on Custom PCB with Chip Antenna</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/268769?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 13:20:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:22bd66d1-eff5-4529-8660-010c53be1916</guid><dc:creator>ketiljo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Routing ground like this doesn&amp;#39;t work well. The inductance in the tracks are too high. You need to connect the components C1 and C7 directly to the ground plane&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remove TP19 as it will affect the antenna.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The bottom side, under the RF section should be solid ground. No tracks or components here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You also need plenty of vias to connect the top and bottom ground planes together.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When it comes to the antenna tuning components, they strongly depend on the layout, PCB size, proximity to metal and plastic etc. So mostly likely, the values from the antenna&amp;#39;s datasheet doesn&amp;#39;t apply to your board. Take a look at this whitepaper:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/pdf/nwp_017.pdf"&gt;https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/pdf/nwp_017.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: [nRF52840] Poor RF Performance on Custom PCB with Chip Antenna</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/268648?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:25:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:df83642d-1d9c-4719-b813-02e15d55a98d</guid><dc:creator>mkimhj</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The values for C24, L6, and L7 were taken from the Johanson datasheet:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.johansontechnology.com/datasheets/2450AT18A100/2450AT18A100.pdf"&gt;www.johansontechnology.com/.../2450AT18A100.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Below are screenshots from the layout:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1599636235727v3.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1599636213502v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1599636222816v2.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: [nRF52840] Poor RF Performance on Custom PCB with Chip Antenna</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/268645?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:22:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:2ac48e86-186f-446a-b142-b69eeb300a39</guid><dc:creator>ketiljo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The schematic is correct. But the layout plays a major role as well, how does that look like? How have you gotten the value of the antenna tuning components, C24, L6 and L7?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>