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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>RX sensitivity test (S2 and S8) on DUT 2 DUT mode</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/71296/rx-sensitivity-test-s2-and-s8-on-dut-2-dut-mode</link><description>Dear Sir, 
 I&amp;#39;m use 2 nrf52840 chips to test sensitivity by nRF-DTM-1.0 tool. 
 I find out it&amp;#39;s work on 1M and 2M but S8 and S2 can work. 
 The PER can&amp;#39;t get 0% when I only use 25 dB attenuator between 2 DUT ( conducted in the shielding room). 
 Could</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2021 14:15:16 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/71296/rx-sensitivity-test-s2-and-s8-on-dut-2-dut-mode" /><item><title>RE: RX sensitivity test (S2 and S8) on DUT 2 DUT mode</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/293582?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2021 14:15:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:0e993a1d-1055-4526-b456-46392a634c13</guid><dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the datasheet I can find sensitivity values:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/ps_nrf52840/radio.html#unique_544454632"&gt;https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/ps_nrf52840/radio.html#unique_544454632&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like there is a typical 4dB difference between 125kbps(S8) and 500kbps(S2). So that is very close to what you measure of 5dB.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like&amp;nbsp;your measurements are a bit worse compared to datasheet:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Difference 1Mbps datasheet vs. your measurement: 1-2dB&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Difference 2Mbps datasheet vs. your measurement: 0dB&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Difference 125kbps(S8) datasheet vs. your measurement: 3-5dB&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Difference&amp;nbsp;500kbps(S2) datasheet vs. your measurement: 4-6dB&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I think maybe you have some low level noise in the system (e.g. USB) that may impact the lower sensitivity levels here. If the loss was due to cable and connectors I would expect them to influence all measurements. You could for comparison use 2 DK&amp;#39;s and a step attenuator between the two DK and see how much attenuation you can have until the&amp;nbsp;packet loss increase&amp;nbsp;to about 30%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;For 1M and 2M they are both 625us when using 30byte payload.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;Kenneth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: RX sensitivity test (S2 and S8) on DUT 2 DUT mode</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/293483?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2021 08:29:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:4b6d448f-0eba-4a84-a5e2-982ee4007259</guid><dc:creator>Gordon Liu</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your responses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find out the Rx test tool that need more timing accuracy of receive packet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, I change the capture pattern (RF signal) that be 100 packets be a pattern file.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can test S2 and S8 now, but S2 sensitivity less S8 sensitivity&amp;nbsp; 5 dB.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s not make sense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have any comment??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Please share the send time per&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;a packet&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;for 1M and 2M (30byte).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1612858920752v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: RX sensitivity test (S2 and S8) on DUT 2 DUT mode</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/293412?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:42:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:be9d03b1-2d8c-4ada-95c1-f616e1afcb19</guid><dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Can you also try with two DK as shown here?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When using 30byte payload with S2 there will be a packet sent every 1.25ms (when using S8 every 3.125ms), so that means I should receive about 8000 packets in 10seconds when using S2. That seems to be correct here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1612802523540v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: RX sensitivity test (S2 and S8) on DUT 2 DUT mode</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/293013?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2021 02:50:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:6292be79-ee32-4eee-bb73-5198626c507e</guid><dc:creator>Gordon Liu</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have use &amp;quot;DTM tool&amp;nbsp; of nRf connect 3.6.1&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find out S8 and S2 still have packet loss 350ea ~100ea when I send 1000 packet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS: I use the Lite-point IQXel to capture the signal pattern of a S2 packet.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: RX sensitivity test (S2 and S8) on DUT 2 DUT mode</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/292901?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:41:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:a6e7f2ca-936b-4275-9434-3b656a2c7b2f</guid><dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you try using the built in DTM in the nRF Connect for Desktop?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nordicsemi.com/Software-and-tools/Development-Tools/nRF-Connect-for-desktop"&gt;https://www.nordicsemi.com/Software-and-tools/Development-Tools/nRF-Connect-for-desktop&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/7624.pastedimage1612442356183v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not sure what PER value you are measuring, but since the packets are longer when using S2 and S8, it may be simply that the first and last packets are not received due to the receive window is too tight.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;Kenneth&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>