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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>How to troubleshoot a chip antenna on custom PCB with 52832</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/78328/how-to-troubleshoot-a-chip-antenna-on-custom-pcb-with-52832</link><description>Hello, 
 I have successfully programmed the ble_app_uart example to a custom PCB using the 52832. Here is the board schematic, on the board C15 and C16 are not fitted. 
 
 
 Using RTT I was able to confirm that the advertising start function started with</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2021 02:09:51 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/78328/how-to-troubleshoot-a-chip-antenna-on-custom-pcb-with-52832" /><item><title>RE: How to troubleshoot a chip antenna on custom PCB with 52832</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/324914?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2021 02:09:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:158277e0-9d42-4959-87d8-d984052b6555</guid><dc:creator>jake11212</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the help.&amp;nbsp; I also got into contact with Johanson as well and they noted two important things:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) The orientation of the antenna must match the datasheet or the output frequency can change.&amp;nbsp; This was one issue with my board that likely caused me to not detect a signal from nRF toolkit.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) The other is that I used an end antenna but placed it in the corner which was another issue.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your note about the ground was also correct, I misunderstood the datasheet.&amp;nbsp; The top layer should be cleared directly under the soldermask but there is no need for any clearance on the bottom layer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And my matching net was very far away which I fixed as well.&amp;nbsp; I ended up changing to a corner antenna and matching the matching net and clearance exactly to the datasheet, so hopefully this next iteration will work!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to troubleshoot a chip antenna on custom PCB with 52832</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/324114?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 07:06:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:347c684b-ec3e-412e-9a7b-c8e8ca230735</guid><dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator><description>[quote user="jake11212"]&lt;p&gt;In the top left of the antenna picture you attached it says that the metal bottom GND plane is to be placed directly underneath the yellow soldermask zone.&amp;nbsp; I interpreted this to mean under the soldermask zone on the top layer.&amp;nbsp; This is incorrect?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So when they say underneath the soldermask zone they mean on the board&amp;#39;s bottom layer?&amp;nbsp; And when you say the antenna should have a cut out in ground under it on the top layer this doesn&amp;#39;t conflict since the ground layer under the solder mask they were referring to is on the bottom layer?&lt;/p&gt;[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Correct. The ground under the antenna should be in the inner/bottom layer. On the top layer copy the footprint directly from the antenna vendor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also the way the antenna feed is connected, and that you place the antenna matching components close to the antenna. Also add a full pi-network for the antenna, this gives you more flexibility when tuning it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;Kaja&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to troubleshoot a chip antenna on custom PCB with 52832</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/324078?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2021 16:41:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:3d6387db-0c30-47a1-b65b-81fe20fdd09c</guid><dc:creator>jake11212</dc:creator><description>[quote userid="77059" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/78328/how-to-troubleshoot-a-chip-antenna-on-custom-pcb-with-52832/324017#324017"]The antenna should have a cut out in ground under it, in the top layer.&amp;nbsp;[/quote]
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&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure what you mean by this.&amp;nbsp; What is the center pad referring to?&amp;nbsp; And won&amp;#39;t grounding these pins stop the signal from reaching the 52832?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="77059" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/78328/how-to-troubleshoot-a-chip-antenna-on-custom-pcb-with-52832/324017#324017"] You have plenty of room, so you have no need to use a zero clearance antenna[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#39;re planning to make the PCB smaller in later iterations where the size of the board will be limited by a battery on the back side and space will be much more confined.&amp;nbsp; I wanted to prototype with the same type of antenna that will be used in the final design which is why I wanted to use this antenna specifically.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="77059" url="~/f/nordic-q-a/78328/how-to-troubleshoot-a-chip-antenna-on-custom-pcb-with-52832/324017#324017"]The antenna should have a cut out in ground under it, in the top layer.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;In the top left of the antenna picture you attached it says that the metal bottom GND plane is to be placed directly underneath the yellow soldermask zone.&amp;nbsp; I interpreted this to mean under the soldermask zone on the top layer.&amp;nbsp; This is incorrect?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So when they say underneath the soldermask zone they mean on the board&amp;#39;s bottom layer?&amp;nbsp; And when you say the antenna should have a cut out in ground under it on the top layer this doesn&amp;#39;t conflict since the ground layer under the solder mask they were referring to is on the bottom layer?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How to troubleshoot a chip antenna on custom PCB with 52832</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/324017?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2021 12:53:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:4001c277-feb9-409d-ab9f-78a090f74828</guid><dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jake,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;some comments:&lt;br /&gt;1. You need to add more vias to ground to ensure proper grounding of the components.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Ground P0.25 and P0.26 via the center pad as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1628513373464v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The antenna footprint must be corrected.&lt;br /&gt;- You have plenty of room, so you have no need to use a zero clearance antenna, see the &lt;a href="https://www.johansontechnology.com/chip-antenna-selection"&gt;selection guide&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- The matching components for the antenna must be placed close to the antenna.&lt;br /&gt;- The antenna should have a cut out in ground under it, in the top layer.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1628513531294v2.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- You have plenty of room to chose a pcb printed antenna, see our &lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/pdf/nwp_008.pdf?cp=17_17"&gt;white paper&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;or copy the one form our DK&amp;#39;s, just add some extra mm of length. Then you only need one matching component for the antenna.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best regards,&lt;br /&gt;Kaja&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>