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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52832 custom board; RF antenna design and tuning</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/79195/nrf52832-custom-board-rf-antenna-design-and-tuning</link><description>Hello, I am brand new to antenna design and especially antenna tuning and want to know if my antenna tuning design/method would work. 
 First I will be tuning with a VMA (nanoVGA-F V2) where I will connect from the SMA on the VMA to a u.FL connection</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:27:35 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/79195/nrf52832-custom-board-rf-antenna-design-and-tuning" /><item><title>RE: nRF52832 custom board; RF antenna design and tuning</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/327815?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:27:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:8769b436-6a75-4bdf-99c3-77cbff353f0e</guid><dc:creator>JONATHAN LL</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will try to guide you as best i can on this, but i also want to inform you that we at Nordic do provide tuning services for both the antenna radio as well as schematic and HW reviews.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is some links to some guides we have on HW design.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/nordic/short-range-guides/b/hardware-and-layout/posts/general-pcb-design-guidelines-for-nrf52"&gt;(+) General PCB design guidelines for nRF52 series - Hardware design, test and measurement - nRF5 SDK guides - Nordic DevZone (nordicsemi.com)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/nordic/short-range-guides/b/hardware-and-layout/posts/nrf52832-specific-pcb-guidelines"&gt;(+) nRF52832 Specific PCB Guidelines - Hardware design, test and measurement - nRF5 SDK guides - Nordic DevZone (nordicsemi.com)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And for the nrf52832 there is a &lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/errata_nRF52832_Rev2/ERR/nRF52832/Rev2/latest/anomaly_832_138.html?cp=4_2_1_0_1_35"&gt;Errata 138&lt;/a&gt; that adresses some radio issues. Grounding or decoupling pin 37 and 38.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the &lt;a href="https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.nrf52832.ps.v1.1/ref_circuitry.html?cp=4_2_0_52_6#pcb_guidelines"&gt;PCB guidelines&lt;/a&gt; and layout for the nrf52832, i guess that you might have looked at this all ready.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly the there are two main parts in this system, the radio and its matching&amp;nbsp;network and the antenna and its matching network.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img height="123" src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1630587113932v1.png" width="375" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the first part, the radio we strongly recommend that you not only follow the recommendation from the schematic, but also the reference layout.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and it looks like you have followed our recommendation to some degree. Reason for why we say that you should follow the layout is due to the fact that there is stray capacitance and inductance that will change how it well it preforms, so with the component values we have recommended the layout should also match. When the deviation in the layout is to great then we can not guarantee that the radio will preform optimally.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The specific layout helps match the output to 50 ohms and filter the harmonics. Filtering the harmonics is equally as important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user=""]I will get these test capacitors and inductors from these two links &lt;a href="https://www.newark.com/johanson-technology/s603ds/s-series-designer-kit-0603/dp/95W3677?gclid=CjwKCAjwybyJBhBwEiwAvz4G728iklYHhSlB3K_B_vGZcFpjbOqMr4jmeMQjD0PShe0uLq3XE2PcYhoCaYUQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;mckv=sVZjJI2Ml_dc%7Cpcrid%7C434136793395%7Cplid%7C%7Ckword%7C%7Cmatch%7C%7Cslid%7C%7Cproduct%7C95W3677%7Cpgrid%7C100464450426%7Cptaid%7Caud-126792144981:pla-939151958542%7C&amp;amp;CMP=KNC-GUSA-GEN-Shopping-NewStructure-Passive-Components"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="https://www.newark.com/johanson-technology/l603w/kit-wirewound-rf-inductor-0603/dp/95W3405?gclid=CjwKCAjwybyJBhBwEiwAvz4G7yKYD9_iiwAHGpU-TOgeV-YDGir1FMrfqPZD24UxQr32UkWrAXZwuhoC_ucQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;mckv=sUUAhu4bX_dc%7Cpcrid%7C434136793395%7Cplid%7C%7Ckword%7C%7Cmatch%7C%7Cslid%7C%7Cproduct%7C95W3405%7Cpgrid%7C100464450426%7Cptaid%7Caud-126792144981:pla-901397246816%7C&amp;amp;CMP=KNC-GUSA-GEN-Shopping-NewStructure-Passive-Components"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;. [/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Great choice of components.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
[quote user=""]I am using the Rainsun AN9520-245 antenna (&lt;a href="https://datasheet.lcsc.com/lcsc/1810251713_Rainsun-microwave-Tech-AN9520-245_C99665.pdf"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;) as well.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The antenna looks ok, but in your layout you are covering 2 sides of the antenna, and maybe more with a casing\cover?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1630588056746v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;img height="200" src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1630588309134v3.png" width="454" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My concern is that when looking in the data sheet of the antenna it looks like they have quite the huge clearance on 3 sides of the antenna.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you have enough space on all sides for the antenna to operate as recommended?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for matching for the antenna i think a pi-network is ok.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the layout, you have the right thoughts but i is not ideal. The transmission line is prone to stray capacitance so keeping it 50 Ohms might not be the case here. I like to recommend that you use a grounded coplanar waveguide as the transmission line.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1630588993963v4.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The signal source should try to enter in a straight line and not at an angle. The two sections is to close to one another and could interfare with it self and is probably not 50 Ohms in impedance.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regards,&lt;br /&gt;Jonathan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>