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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>nRF52805 antenna matching</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/82854/nrf52805-antenna-matching</link><description>I need your help to design the radio matching network on device nRF52805. 
 Here the reference design: infocenter.nordicsemi.com/index.jsp In this reference design L1, L2 and C3 are used to match the output impedance of the ANT pin #E1 that it is not</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:25:12 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/82854/nrf52805-antenna-matching" /><item><title>RE: nRF52805 antenna matching</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/343961?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:25:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:3131e928-6219-4f5e-a778-91c112bdb24a</guid><dc:creator>ketiljo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Most probably, yes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52805 antenna matching</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/343945?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:56:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:c060acec-ad13-4f92-a163-26f95e3ba6e6</guid><dc:creator>Alessandro Vitale</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Got it, this means that the values in the reference design are based on that specific layout, this is why there is a difference of 0.4nH on L1 and 0.3pF on C3.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will do a more accurate simulation with Ansys HFSS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52805 antenna matching</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/343941?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:51:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:07de1a14-24f5-4d77-867b-2ed318a84a80</guid><dc:creator>ketiljo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You need to simulate with non-ideal component in order to get correct results. There are parasitic effects that will have impact. Also the layout will have some impact. Ideal components in simple tools like this will not be usable at this frequency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52805 antenna matching</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/343912?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:03:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:fb0783d1-ebb2-433f-b322-7f1e06c60d0b</guid><dc:creator>Alessandro Vitale</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It is clear that close to the antenna I have to place another matching network, maybe pi-network.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What is not clear is why in the reference design there are:&amp;nbsp; L1 = 2.2nH , L2 = 3.3nH and C3 = 1.2pF&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With these values I get 58.6-j16.2&amp;nbsp; @ 2440 MHz:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1639659654579v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;IN order to obtain 37-j20 I have to change those values: L1= 1.8nH, L2= 3.3nH and C3 = 1.5 pF&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/4/pastedimage1639659759011v2.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: nRF52805 antenna matching</title><link>https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/thread/343882?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:13:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">137ad170-7792-4731-bb38-c0d22fbe4515:766c61d4-4959-458a-bac0-89a76823cd94</guid><dc:creator>ketiljo</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s not a good idea to match the radio to the antenna directly. You will most probably not have enough attenuation of the harmonics there are serious risks of failing radio qualification testing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The reference design takes care of both the impedance transformation and low pass filtering. You can measure S22 when the radio is in TX mode. It&amp;#39;s expected to see ~50 ohm into the matching network from the antenna side.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The radio is expecting to see 37 - j20 ohm&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>