Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

ovrebekk — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:11:51 GMT

It's a first time for everything 🙂

When you do have a design ready just create a new private ticket, and upload your files there.

Best regards
Torbjørn

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

towes — Thu, 27 Oct 2022 18:21:58 GMT

Thank you for the extra info, I haven't done high frequency layout before so this is all good to know.

I will definitely send in my schematic and layout when I've completed them, I didn't realise it was an option honestly but I'm very happy to know I can get more help if (when 🙂) something goes wrong.

Thanks again for all the help.

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

ovrebekk — Thu, 27 Oct 2022 08:04:23 GMT

Breadboarding works for simple circuits using low frequency signals, but high frequency signals like crystal oscillators and RF signals will not.

The most important advice I can give on PCB design is to copy our reference design as much as you can, in particular the RF part. For a 2.4GHz signal just one millimeter of extra trace adds 1 nH of inductance, meaning the simple act of moving a component and lengthening the trace will dramatically change the characteristics of your board.

The second piece of advice I will provide is to keep in touch with us in support. Once you have your schematic ready please send it to us for review, and the same when you have your layout ready. Then you greatly maximize the chance of having something working when you get your PCB manufactured.

More information on PCB design guide lines and reference layout for the nRF52810 can be found here.

Best regards
Torbjørn

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

towes — Wed, 26 Oct 2022 22:10:02 GMT

That...makes perfect sense now that you mention it.

My end goal is to make a PCB but I had the idea to fully prototype it first to aviod any issues with the final design. I can see why that isn't an option now though.

I have had the nRF52DK for a while now so I will just use that instead.

I really appreciate youir help Torbjørn, thanks a lot.

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

ovrebekk — Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:01:09 GMT

Running the chip from a socket like this, with all the external components hooked up on a breadboard, is more or less guaranteed to fail unfortunately.

The long connections between the pads on the chip and the components will add a lot of capacitance to the signals, which will affect the operation of the device.

Is your end goal to make your own PCB?
If so I would recommend getting an nRF52DK for development.

The nRF52DK uses the nRF52832 rather than the nRF52810, but we don't have a dedicated DK for the nRF52810. When developing your code it is possible to limit the project to the resources of the nRF52810, even if the nRF52832 is used for development.

If your end goal is just to run something from a breadboard I would look for an nRF52810 module that has the right pitch and placement of GPIO's so that it can be connected to the breadboard easily. For a full list of 3rd party modules using the nRF52810 please have a look here.

Best regards
Torbjørn

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

towes — Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:54:28 GMT

Hi,

I tried adding the command you suggested and got the same result.

The board is messy unfortunately but here's an image:

The VDD pins all show roughly 3.3V, DEC1 shows 1.1V and DEC2 shows 1.3V.

I've double checked the capacitor on DEC1 and it is definitely 100nF so I'm not sure why it is at 1.1V.

Thanks

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

ovrebekk — Tue, 25 Oct 2022 10:32:04 GMT

Does it help if you run a recover operation first?

You can do this from the command line like this:

nrfjprog --recover

Also, can you share a picture of your PCB as well?

Have you probed any pins on the nRF52810 to see if the chip is powered up properly?

The VDD pins should follow the supply voltage, and you can also check the DEC1 and DEC2 pins to see if the chip is powered up. The DEC1 voltage should be around 0.9V, and the DEC2 voltage should be around 1.3V.

Best regards
Torbjørn

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

towes — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 20:07:19 GMT

I've added that line to my prj.conf file but still receive the same type of error.

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

Vidar Berg — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:06:13 GMT

Hi,

It looks like you are missing one of the DCDC inductor in your design:

Please add CONFIG_BOARD_ENABLE_DCDC=n to your prj.conf to use the internal LDO instead, and see if it helps. Both inductors are needed for noise suppression.

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

towes — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 18:50:00 GMT

Hi Torbjorn,

Thanks for the reply.

The voltage supply to the board is 3.3V.

Here's a picture of the supply itself.

RE: Write verify fails on custom nRF52810 board

ovrebekk — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 15:32:08 GMT

What is the supply voltage of your board?

The J-Link Edu Mini does not have level shifters on board, and as such will only be able to program boards with a supply voltage of around 3.3V.

If your board is using a different supply voltage you would need to use something like the J-Link Base, which supports the entire voltage range of the nRF52 devices.

Best regards
Torbjørn