Using external flash other than MX25R64

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:34:55 GMT

Hi,

You could try enabling 2 configuration options shown below.

CONFIG_SPI_NOR_SFDP_RUNTIME

CONFIG_FLASH_JESD216_API

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:10:36 GMT

connection to flash is there but the part no. is not mx25r6435f. It is still expecting the JDEC ID of mx25r6435f. Our JDEC ID is different and it is jedec-id = [20 BA 18];.

Our problem is why it still expecting of MX flash. Is any other changes required? like compatible etc.

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:56:15 GMT

Hi,

Jedec ID [00 00 00] might indicate that there is no proper connection between nRF52840 and external flash. You should try to verify the connection to the flash on your custom board.

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:28:35 GMT

when we modified the details in DTS as per our MT25QL128ABA1EW9-0SIT: Serial 128MB NOR flash, ther is no success.

When we boot the device it is still expecting the JEDEC ID of mx25r6435f.

What should be the name for the our flash in dts inplace of " mx25r64: mx25r6435f@0" and compatible id.

&qspi {
	status = "okay";
	pinctrl-0 = <&qspi_default>;
	pinctrl-1 = <&qspi_sleep>;
	pinctrl-names = "default", "sleep";
	MT25QL128: MT25QL128@0 {
		compatible = "nordic,qspi-nor";
		reg = <0>;
		/* MX25R64 supports only pp and pp4io */
		writeoc = "pp2o";
		/* MX25R64 supports all readoc options */
		readoc = "read2o";
		sck-frequency = <8000000>;
		jedec-id = [20 BA 18];
		sfdp-bfp = [
		53 46 44 50 06 01 01 FF 00 06 01 10 30 00 00 FF 84 00 01 02 80 00 00 FF
		FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
		FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
		E5 20 F9 FF FF FF FF 07 29 EB 27 6B 27 3B
		27 BB FF FF FF FF FF FF 27 BB FF FF 29 EB 0C 20 10 D8 0F 52 00 00
		00 99 4A 24 C9 03 8E 8B 38 27 01 AC 7A 75 
		7A 75 5C D5 BD FB FF 82 0F 4A 00 00 3D 81
		FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
		00 00 F0 FF FF FF FF FF
		];
		size = <134217728>;
		has-dpd;
		t-enter-dpd = <10000>;
		t-exit-dpd = <35000>;
	};
};

If put other name nothing happens but device is also not ready.

To test we are using the sample code "C:\ncs\v2.1.0\zephyr\samples\drivers\spi_flash"

This fails as device not ready with our flash but works well with the DK flash

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:56:41 GMT

Hi,

With proper configuration similar to what you showed earlier in &qspi, you would probably not need an additional driver.

Regarding drivers, you could have a look at nrfx drivers and Zephyr flash drivers online.

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:36:07 GMT

We are trying to get the SFDP related details and still waiting for them.

One more question here i have is , after updating the dts file with these details is there any other things do we need to modify.

we are using zephyr os as part of NCS 2.1.0. do we need to integrate any driver for MT25QL128ABA1EW9-0SIT: Serial 128MB NOR flash.

If yes can you provide the link for the zephyr driver of this flash?

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Fri, 06 Jan 2023 14:54:37 GMT

Hi,

You could read more about QSPI NOR properties in the documentation. In QSPI electrical specification, you can see that maximum supported frequency for QSPI is 32 MHz. Table 10 in datasheet shows that some frequencies can be less that maximum 32 MHz. It might be possible to configure one of the mentioned values which are less than 32 MHz. Table 44 in the same datasheet specifies DPD exit time (most probably this would be t-exit-dpd) to be 30 us. High to deep power-down which most probably corresponds to t-enter-dpd is specified to be 3 us. The memory size is doubled, so probably you would look at value 134217728. Write and read operation codes (writeoc and readoc) depend on the supported options for your particular flash memory. In any case, I would recommend that you contact flash memory manufacturer as they produce this flash memory and can provide the most reliable information related to the parameters in question.

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:44:14 GMT

Thank you for the input. these links helped upto certain point.

Datasheet of mx25r6435f: Flash of DK

https://www.digikey.in/en/datasheets/macronix/macronixmx25r6435f20wide20range2064mb20v14#pf19

Our flash is MT25QL128ABA1EW9-0SIT: Serial 128MB NOR flash

https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/die-rev-a/mt25q_qlhs_l_128_aba_0.pdf

Compared the values of DTS with bothe data sheets able to understand only few parameters.

But still did not get the values of

writeoc, readoc values from datasheet of DK_flash to corelate to my flash.

Also:

sfdp-bfp,

t-enter-dpd,

t-exit-dpd.

values also how it is given in DTS. did not get any clue from MX data sheet.

Clock frequency in our data sheet is 90Mhz and 133 Mhz. not sure which one to use.

Because in MX flash data sheet also it is 80MHZ but in the nordic DTS only 8MHZ is used.

only JDEC ID and has dpd is only clear from the data sheets.

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 13:42:52 GMT

Hi,

JEDEC provides open standards for microelectronics industry.

General information about Devicetree bindings is available in the documentation. The meaning of specific properties related to QSPI is shown in devicetree bindings for Nordic QSPI peripheral. You should be able to find appropriate values of the properties for your particular NOR flash memory from the device manufacturer's datasheet.

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 09:20:07 GMT

we will be using NOR flash only.

So you mean with the general configs which we use for the flash, same will work right?

I am new to this flash terminology. what is JEDEC spec? w.r.t this spec how the dts changes should be modified. I mean below is for default flash exists in nRF52840 DK. how these detials need to modified.

&qspi {
	status = "okay";
	pinctrl-0 = <&qspi_default>;
	pinctrl-1 = <&qspi_sleep>;
	pinctrl-names = "default", "sleep";
	mx25r64: mx25r6435f@0 {
		compatible = "nordic,qspi-nor";
		reg = <0>;
		/* MX25R64 supports only pp and pp4io */
		writeoc = "pp4io";
		/* MX25R64 supports all readoc options */
		readoc = "read4io";
		sck-frequency = <8000000>;
		jedec-id = [c2 28 17];
		sfdp-bfp = [
			e5 20 f1 ff  ff ff ff 03  44 eb 08 6b  08 3b 04 bb
			ee ff ff ff  ff ff 00 ff  ff ff 00 ff  0c 20 0f 52
			10 d8 00 ff  23 72 f5 00  82 ed 04 cc  44 83 68 44
			30 b0 30 b0  f7 c4 d5 5c  00 be 29 ff  f0 d0 ff ff
		];
		size = <67108864>;
		has-dpd;
		t-enter-dpd = <10000>;
		t-exit-dpd = <35000>;
	};
};

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 09:13:11 GMT

Hi,

If you are planning to use QSPI NOR device which follows JEDEC specification, the basic set of features should be supported directly through nrf_qspi_nor.c driver. NAND flash would most likely be incompatible due to different sector sizes or use of different flash commands.

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 06:58:20 GMT

I will not be using any bard. We will be using nRF52840 interfaced with external flash ove QSPI, in our complete product.

I mean no DK will be used here.

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

dejans — Tue, 03 Jan 2023 13:49:47 GMT

Hi,

Which board do you use?

Do you plan to use one external QSPI flash memory on your board which is different than existing one on the DK?

Best regards,
Dejan

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

Srikara — Tue, 03 Jan 2023 03:57:00 GMT

This basic details I used while using default external flashof DK . My main concern is DTS file changes for QSPI and if any driver implementation needed.
Can you ellobarate where i can see dts file relation with flash in the path \ncs\v2.1.0\zephyr\samples\drivers\jesd216.

I do not see any dts related here

RE: Using external flash other than MX25R64

riedlse — Mon, 02 Jan 2023 14:51:00 GMT

Not a complete answer, but I found this sample in the zephyr ics build that lets you find out all of the details of the flash chip you are using to enter in the dts.

zephyr/samples/drivers/jesd216

had to add to prj.conf and change the printf to print (if you use RTT, serial comm might work as well, didn't have that hooked up)

# QSPI configuration

CONFIG_NORDIC_QSPI_NOR=y

CONFIG_NORDIC_QSPI_NOR_FLASH_LAYOUT_PAGE_SIZE=4096

CONFIG_NORDIC_QSPI_NOR_STACK_WRITE_BUFFER_SIZE=16

# Enable logs

CONFIG_LOG=y

CONFIG_LOG_PRINTK=y

CONFIG_LOG_MODE_DEFERRED=n

CONFIG_LOG_BACKEND_RTT_MODE_DROP=n

CONFIG_LOG_BACKEND_RTT_MESSAGE_SIZE=1024

CONFIG_LOG_PROCESS_THREAD_STACK_SIZE=1024

CONFIG_SEGGER_RTT_BUFFER_SIZE_UP=4096

CONFIG_USE_SEGGER_RTT=y

CONFIG_RTT_CONSOLE=y