Infos on CME ERROR 13

Greetings.

Background:

We have a custom device, that uses the nRF9160 as a Modem, with Modem OS 1.3.4 and a sightly modified "Serial LTE Modem" FW. One of our Devices was sent to a customer and he put in his SIM card.

With this SIM Card inserted we get a CME Error 13 - SIM Failure on the at+cpin? command. The SIM appears to be working though, as it's recognized on the customers Phone. Since The Device is at the customers site on a different continent, we can't really test with it, so I wanted to gather some general Info about this.

To be clear, in our Lab we've tested various SIMs with all kinds of Pins and APN settings, so we know our FW should generally configure the Modem correctly.

Now the questions:

Do you know, when CMEErr 13 can occur? We've seen the Modem report it also when the SIM is not inserted at all, but what are these other failures? Are they always HW related?

Could this be a timing thing? Would it be wise to add some retries for the at+cpin command? if so what would be an appropriate time between retries?

As the problematic setup is at our customer in a different country, we don't really have the possibility to just flash and try about, that's why I'm asking this barrage of questions, so we can so our best to counteract this in the future, if possible.

Best wishes,
MaLu

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  • Hello, are you able to provide any logs from when you receive this? I.e. modem traces would be beneficial

    As this is a custom device, and CME error 13 means SIM Failure, have you verified that the SIM connector are properly connected/soldered on the board? You could try to measure and see what signals you receive? Does the SIM support LTE M1 and/or NB-IoT? 

    customers site on a different continent, we can't really test with it, so I wanted to gather some general Info about this

    What SIM are they using? And what location?

    Do you know, when CMEErr 13 can occur? We've seen the Modem report it also when the SIM is not inserted at all, but what are these other failures? Are they always HW related?

    What other failures? 

    Kind regards,
    Øyvind

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  • Hello, are you able to provide any logs from when you receive this? I.e. modem traces would be beneficial

    As this is a custom device, and CME error 13 means SIM Failure, have you verified that the SIM connector are properly connected/soldered on the board? You could try to measure and see what signals you receive? Does the SIM support LTE M1 and/or NB-IoT? 

    customers site on a different continent, we can't really test with it, so I wanted to gather some general Info about this

    What SIM are they using? And what location?

    Do you know, when CMEErr 13 can occur? We've seen the Modem report it also when the SIM is not inserted at all, but what are these other failures? Are they always HW related?

    What other failures? 

    Kind regards,
    Øyvind

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