Long disconnects with empty PDP on nrf9160

Hello,

Our solution uses nrf9160 in smart parking devices that the user controls from a smartphone app, through the internet. Since commands come from the user to the device, we need fast response and very high availability.

We are closely monitoring the connection to be active. I.e. a confirmed ticket opened couple of months ago to confirm with you we are doing the best we can Modem connection state detection 

We still see some disconnects of >2 hours even though the device retries (from soft retry to reboot) every ~5 minutes.

We asked 1NCE to investigate on their side, and the conclusions were below (plus pic attached)

  • The device intermittently worked on both Vodafone and Orange networks.
  • At times, the device became stuck with all PDP contexts empty on both networks, meaning no data was sent or received.

Since the issue occurred simultaneously on both networks, it is unlikely to be a network problem. It appears to be related to the device’s logic, as it intermittently functions but sometimes gets stuck with empty PDP contexts.

Questions:
Q1: What do you make of the explanation from 1NCE? Is there anything we can do from app level related to PDP context? We are not directly using/configuring it in any way, we use high level initializers.

Q2: 1NCE suggested we could blacklist an operator at their level, so the device only connects to one operator. But they told us to make sure if we ever want to switch, we need to reset the saved context that can get stored on the SIM.
How can we do that?


Thanks,
Geo

 

pic from 1NCE

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  • Hello Geo,

    Do you have any application logs that you can share with us, showing what is going on in the device? Is this happening at a specific location, or the whole network? Where have you tested?

    What modem FW are you running on your device? Are you also able to collect modem trace? 

    I will forward this internally to discuss with our network specialists. 

    The device intermittently worked on both Vodafone and Orange networks

    From this information I'm assuming that you are using LTE-M? As these both provide support for LTE-M according to the GSMA Mobile IoT Deployment Map.

    Kind regards,
    Øyvind

  • Hello Øyvind,

    Thanks for the fast response!
    Unfortunately we don't have a device log for when this problem happens :(. It started happening recently, in Bucharest Romania and also in another two cities.It doesn't seem to happen in Barcelona.

    We used to be locked on band 3 that worked well, and in >1 year we only experienced short disconnects that were fixed by either soft retries or rebooting the device.
    Couple of months ago the operator started removing band 3 and adding band 20. When we removed band locking the device can connect to other operators (Vodafone besides Orange).
    We are not sure multiple operators is the blame, but it is the only significant change that happened.

    Modem fw: 2.6.1

    Yes, using LTE-M.

    Thanks,
    Geo

  • We used to be locked on band 3 that worked well, and in >1 year we only experienced short disconnects that were fixed by either soft retries or rebooting the device.
    Couple of months ago the operator started removing band 3 and adding band 20. When we removed band locking the device can connect to other operators (Vodafone besides Orange).

    If it works for you with only 1 operator, then "CONFIG_LTE_LOCK_PLMN_STRING" (or 'AT+COPS=1,2,"<your plmn>" ') may do the job.

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