NPM1304 PCM lockout

Hi,

We're looking to integrate the NPM1304 in a product with a very small battery. As per the NPM datasheet we've selected a battery with a PCM.

We've previously seen the PCM trip in a couple of prototypes; we are not sure why seems likely to be overcurrent.

Using the EK we triggered a trip with a momentary short; we see the battery output at 1.25V after this and we've measured 85uA still going into the NPM EK. This current seems too high for the PCM to reset; if we momentarily disconnect the battery it's back up to 4.1V on reconnection and everything works.

Problem is this voltage seems to be too low for any of the NPM1304 functions like button reset or shipping mode to function, so as far as we can tell there would be no way for the user to get the product out of this state.

Any suggestions? Seems like we need the NPM's UVLO current to drop below the battery PCM's reset threshold but no idea how to go about it.

Thanks,

Bill

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  • Hi Bill,

    Could you get us the schematics of the board? Does it recover from this state by plugging in USB? Could we also get the datasheet of the PCM?

    I'll be happy to make the case private if you want me to.

    Regards,

    Elfving

  • Hi Elfving,

    I'm sorry I'm so delayed. We haven't had luck getting the PCM datasheet yet, but we'll keep pushing because I had the same thought when it happened. I need to look into sharing the schematics, change of management here so still trying to work out processes.

    In the meantime, my test so far was just hooking up the battery (with PCM) to J3 on the NPM1304-EK.

    I'm trying to remember if I tried USB in that state. I think I better try again and get back to you.
    I also need to think about if that's enough of a solution even if it does; it feels a bit weird to ask a user to plug in a wearable that they might expect to be charged already? I.e. in my mind if the battery still has enough juice the product should be able to recover itself.

    Thanks,

    Bill

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  • Hi Elfving,

    I'm sorry I'm so delayed. We haven't had luck getting the PCM datasheet yet, but we'll keep pushing because I had the same thought when it happened. I need to look into sharing the schematics, change of management here so still trying to work out processes.

    In the meantime, my test so far was just hooking up the battery (with PCM) to J3 on the NPM1304-EK.

    I'm trying to remember if I tried USB in that state. I think I better try again and get back to you.
    I also need to think about if that's enough of a solution even if it does; it feels a bit weird to ask a user to plug in a wearable that they might expect to be charged already? I.e. in my mind if the battery still has enough juice the product should be able to recover itself.

    Thanks,

    Bill

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