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range distance of nrf52832

Hello! I've soldered my first board with nrf52832 chip + PA on it. Everything works well beside the radio. The real distance (less 10m) even worse than on nrf52dk despite I use PA RFX2401

Here's my post with schematic pcb of this board, below the photo of that.

This amplifier is very popular for nrf chips especially nrf2401 and the range distance is about 500m-1km. Also the amplifier used for nrf51822.

The circuit for nrf52832 is standart from nordic documentation, the circuit in part of PA from datasheet

For enabling work of PA I set high level on pins 23,24 (due to absence special pins for that like in nrf51822)

Also I tried to connect external antenna via IPEX socket, the result was a little bit better.

The power amplifier should increase strength of signal up to +20dbm, in my case where nrf52dk has -55dbm - my board has -30dbm but when I far away (with smartphone nrf_connect app) from boards phone keeps get advertising packets from nrf52dk and start to loose some from my board.

I know this board is not very well done in part of radio (not enough vias for good ground plane).

I've even tried to use amplifier part of nrf2401+PA module with external antenna connect to my board. I've tried the same even with nrf52dk :)) (attahched photo below). Actually the result is the same. (Maybe it's not correct way to test PA but I had to test it)

I need the distance about 100-200m with one - two concrete wall or through 7-10mm metal

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  • You can't hang the micro coax (ie, hirose) connector off the antenna like that. That would make an open stub tuner which at these frequencies probably makes a dead short. If you want a coax port you will need to have it selectable with parts placement. Just replicate C13 and have them share a common pad then you place the cap for the solution you want.

    Also L1 cannot be 15nH. Off hand I don't know what reference design calls for but 15nH makes an open circuit at 2.4GHz.

    These mistakes alone will cause you design to not work. Though you should also check the code on your logic for TxEN and RxEn. The bluetooth transmissions are really short so you should use a O-scope and RF power detector to make sure everything lines up correctly. On the code I was involved in an extensive post on PA/LNA support on nRF52832. Here: devzone.nordicsemi.com/.../

    With regard to the antenna: the ground plane, feed and placement of the antenna are incorrect. RainSun specify a vertical orientation for the antenna with 50ohm feed to the antenna and the feedpoint right where the ground plane ends. See below: RainSunAntenna

  • Yes, of course I tested it with micro-coax connector. What I noticed is when I connect antenna (2dbi) before PA it's work with less RSSI but more stable and sensivity up to -98dbm. When I use RF like on the photo the RSSI is -30dbm (1m distance) when 23,24 pins are high - enable tx,rx on pa. When I disable PA working (low level on 23,24) the RSSI about -60dbm. It almost doesn't matter I use external antenna via ipex socket or without (just with onboard chip antenna). I tried to solder out the ipex socket - the result became worse (-60dbm intead of -30dbm), also I tried to solder filter intead of ipex socket (just before chip antenna) like on the nrf2401+pa boards (on the photo with nrf52dk board has one) the result is worse. So even I don't use ipex connector it's work better with that.

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  • Yes, of course I tested it with micro-coax connector. What I noticed is when I connect antenna (2dbi) before PA it's work with less RSSI but more stable and sensivity up to -98dbm. When I use RF like on the photo the RSSI is -30dbm (1m distance) when 23,24 pins are high - enable tx,rx on pa. When I disable PA working (low level on 23,24) the RSSI about -60dbm. It almost doesn't matter I use external antenna via ipex socket or without (just with onboard chip antenna). I tried to solder out the ipex socket - the result became worse (-60dbm intead of -30dbm), also I tried to solder filter intead of ipex socket (just before chip antenna) like on the nrf2401+pa boards (on the photo with nrf52dk board has one) the result is worse. So even I don't use ipex connector it's work better with that.

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