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Procedure difference of Bluetooth SIG exists when using BLE module/creating custom PCBs?

Hi there~. I was working on a BLE RC car (BLE peripheral) using Nordic's nRF52832-QFAA MCU , Nordic's UART Service for motor control, and Battery Service (BAS) for battery level notification.

After prototyping, the time has come to manufacture! My company planned to create 2K units of RC Cars and each one has a single nRF52 MCU. But I haven't noticed the SIG certification. I was concerned whether to create a custom PCB that has a PCB antenna and nRF52832-QFAA or choose a BLE module. Later, I noticed BLE module vendors like Laird informed that their BLE modules have the declaration ID and Qualified Design ID (QDID).

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For instance, Laird's BL652 SERIES have FCC, IC, CE, MIC and Bluetooth SIG approvals. They noted their SIG Certification that the this is an "End Product" with QDID 98795. I used this URL to search the ID.

QUESTION: I hope I understood correctly. If I use these certified (Product type == End product, QDID registered in SIG, End Product Listing EPL) BLE modules from those vendors, my RC car doesn't need the SIG certification since the module itself is certified, right? Whereas if I create a custom PCB that uses nRF MCUs, I, or the company where I work, have to handle the SIG certification, correct?

Or if I follow the PCB design of the nRF52-DK (FR-4 1.6mm thick 2-layered PCB, copy the antenna design and IC placements, and more) when creating a custom nRF PCB, can this exempt my custom PCB from SIG certification?

The SIG price looked too overwhelming so I wish to make a smart choice before moving on. Depending on the manufacturing quantity, I think choosing a BLE module might be better. But I hope I was thinking the right way. Thanks for your time checking this!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I added a picture for clearer explanation! PCB

PIC: A PCB that has mounted a Bluetooth module from Laird.

  • Hi Matthew,

    I don't think you can get away from paying Bluetooth SIG to get Declaration ID by using Laird module. As stated here and here:

    Path 1: Qualification Process with No Required Testing (Declaration Process):
    Using someone else's Bluetooth module in your product without any changes or additions 
    Adding your logo to a complete product manufactured by a third party
    

    You may not need to do RF-PHY retest if you use the module. When you develop your own PCB, you will need to do RF-PHY retest, but not other qualification that we already provided with our QDID.

    You only can get away from RF-PHY retest if you use exactly the same PCB as the nRF52 DK, including other components such as the Segger chip and headers, etc.

    If your company is a start up and has a total revenue of less than $1mil you can apply for Innovation Incentive Program and pay less fee for qualification.

    Also be aware that you can declare multiple product in one DID. Please check the Bluetooth Sig web page.

  • Unless you don't want to have the Bluetooth logo on your packaging. If its a B2B product i think you can skip it.

  • Hi, Hung~ Thanks for your time! Looks like you are mentioning the BLE QDID matrix table. I use SoftDevice 5 and nRF52832 so the info of this End Product is QDID 97989, Declaration ID D034946. I haven't heard about the discounted price when the RF-PHY retest is exempted, but it looks like it would be better for me to create my own custom BLE PCB, hmm. Since the Segger chip and headers are not used, looks like I cannot get away from the RF-PHY retest. Lastly, I'm not in a start-up company so the incentive program is not feasible. Looks like my company as to be whether an Associate/Adopter SIG member, right?

  • Anyways, thanks for your sincere answer Hung. I'm reading the Infocenter and I have one more to ask!

    You do not need to qualify your design if you are using an already qualified Bluetooth design. You still need to pay the declaration fee and declare your product. (Ref. SIG guide)

    Using someone else's Bluetooth module in your product without any changes or additions Adding your logo to a complete product manufactured by a third party

    I wish to ask about the changes or additions. Just like the example picture above, a Laird's BLE module is mounted on a custom PCB. I'm trying to do something like this, too. Does this count as an addition to the Bluetooth module? Or are you meaning about soldering some chip or changing the antenna chip on the Laird's BLE module? Thanks for your time!!!

  • Thanks, Dave~ Unfortunately, I'm doing a B2C project. These RC car products (PCB and mold) will be manufactured from Shenzhen, China. Also, I received an import customs clearance issue that without the SIG certification (a paper showing Declaration of Compliance, Supplier Declaration of Conformity, etc) these products cannot be shipped so I started to dig the SIG webpage and the devzone. Have you heard about any issues related to SIG and import customs clearance issue? I'm checking this because the Testing Certification companies are talking this issue but I felt like this is a unilateral assertion to rip off money. Thanks for your time~

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