Nordic Zigbee 3.0 compliant?

[mon2]

Hello. We are in development for Zigbee compliant devices. Could not locate Nordic on the Zigbee.org website as being compliant. Is this an error or misunderstanding on our part? See lots of potential in the use of the Nordic devices but will the Nordic silicon be certified to be compliant?

www.zigbee.org/.../

Will the lack of compliance hold us back from selling our Nordic based goods? At this time, the Nordic 840 device is of most interest. We have open chats with Raytac (Taiwan) for their pre-certified modules that are pending upon the release of your final silicon in 2018.

[endnode]

I guess it's the only nRF52840 and nothing else from Nordic portfolio which supports IEEE 802.15.4 so this is the only chip which could be in question, others are pretty much ruled out immediately. Now the question remains if Nordic plans to release higher layer stack implementing ZigBee or will stop at IEEE 802.15.4 letting you to do the ugly job. My feeling is that you will get response as usual in this case (this one) but at least you tried;)

[mon2]

Hi endnode. Thanks for your comments. Regarding your interest, have you seen the packaged solutions from Taiyo Yuden?

www.digikey.com/.../taiyo-yuden-eyshsnzwz-200-large.jpg

We have been informed that TY will also offer a nRF52840 based solutions in 2018. Same comments as from Raytac whom we met in HK in October. Both are waiting on the Nordic silicon to be officially released before they discuss pricing. For us, we cannot afford to deal with this silicon at the low level so prefer a pre-certified module. Compliance will be a market sell and believe it is mandatory. Hope Nordic can support this compliance to gain even more market share. We are testing just about every solution and finding some issues with each as we work away at the tools. Just invested all day to compile and fix a sample project which is not working correctly like their pre-compiled hex file from Silabs - joy. Tomorrow, will revisit the issues.

So without such certification, what are the vendors doing? Selling widgets that are not certified but working? Is that allowed? Must be confused on this so will keep searching.

[endnode]

I do understand your concern (and I have no affiliation to Nordic - which I suppose you understood - so you don't need to explain it to me;). For me personally is ZigBee absolutely uninteresting so I wouldn't cry if Nordic decided to spend their time and money on something else then ZigBee stack (I would actually understood that decision very well as I believe that BLE/2.4GHz proprietary/thread markets are bigger and more perspective then ZigBee;). However I wish you all the best and hopefully Nordic or someone else will deliver the module/stack with all the papers so you could use it.

[Matt]

Yeah, I don't see why Nordic wants to venture into the ZigBee world also as BLE seems to be the unique selling proposition of the nRF products.

[ovrebekk]

Hi

The radio in the nRF52840 is 100% 802.15.4 compliant so there should be no problems qualifying a Zigbee stack for it, but we don't provide this ourselves.

We have provided an 802.15.4 radio driver library on Github that can be used as a starting point, if someone else wanted to implement a higher level 802.15.4 based RF protocol (like Zigbee) on the nRF52840:
https://github.com/NordicSemiconductor/nRF-IEEE-802.15.4-radio-driver

Also, for future roadmaps you should talk to your local Nordic sales representative. If you don't know who this is just send me a private message, and I will help you out.

Best regards
Torbjørn Øvrebekk