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ble_app_uart_c losing characters

Hello again Nordic World.

We are slowly attempting to transition from the nRF51 environment to nRF52.  We are starting, not with development environment for our product, (it will remain at the 51 leve for now) but with the replacement of our nRF51 Dongles, which we use with the ble_app_uart_c code as a terminal interface to our board for testing.  We are attempt in to replace the nRF51 Dongle with the nRF52 DK.

The problem is that the ble_app_uart_c code from the 15.2 SDK, running on the 52 DK is dropping characters.   Please review the following snippets and note the alignment and missing characters which always seem to get lost in the 3rd column:

3689 4100 419 3689 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3689 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5190 4734 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 -7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5191 4735 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5192 4736 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5193 4737 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5194 4738 1
3689 4100 4193 3682 4123 7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5195 4739 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 -7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5196 4740 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5197 4741 1
3689 4100 4193 3682 4123 7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5198 4742 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 -7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5199 4743 1
3689 4100 419 3682 4123 7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5200 4744 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 -7 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5201 4745 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5202 4746 1
3682 4100 4193 3682 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3682 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 5203 4747 1

Here is the exact same information as printed by the 51 Dongle under SDK 12.3:  Note the perfect alignment and no missing characters.

3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4861 4405 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4862 4406 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4863 4407 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4864 4408 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4865 4409 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4866 4410 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4867 4411 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4868 4412 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4869 4413 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4870 4414 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4871 4415 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4872 4416 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4873 4417 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4874 4418 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4875 4419 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4876 4420 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4877 4421 1
3710 4100 4193 3710 4123 0 0 2 4100 4193 0 3710 4123 0 4100 3400 0 4000 3300 0 1 1 0 0 4878 4422 1

Any ideas on where to search for and correct this problem is greatly appreciated.

Robin @ TL

Some additional information requested by stateside FAE:

The dropping is consistent in that the only characters dropped are the 16th, 17th, or possibly 18th (not know as both are spaces) in the first string sent.to each line.  However when it is dropped seems to be somewhat random.

The 52DK is connected form its u-usb connector on board to a USB-C on my computer by a short (~18") cable.

The only change is the hardware and the version of the unaltered example code running on each.

2 each 52DK's and 2 each cables have been tested.

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  • Hello Robin,

    I don't know if I understood the 16th, 17th or 18th part, but it may be the same problem.

    Are you able to detect where in the path this information is lost? You are using the ble_app_uart_c, so I assume that the data is originally coming from another device over UART?

    Some source -> UART -> ble_app_uart -> BLE -> UART -> Computer.

    Is this correct?

    I don't know how large the chunks you are sending are, but if the entire line is sent in one message, the first character that is missing is the '3' in 4193, right? So that is the 14th character, right?

    So if you test the BLE link, that would be in the ble_nus_chars_received_uart_print() function in the ble_nus_c example, which is called from the BLE_NUS_C_EVT_NUS_TX_EVT event.

    Can you try to check whether the 4193 is missing the '3' there?

    static void ble_nus_chars_received_uart_print(uint8_t * p_data, uint16_t data_len)
    {
        ret_code_t ret_val;
    
        NRF_LOG_DEBUG("Receiving data.");
        NRF_LOG_HEXDUMP_DEBUG(p_data, data_len);
        if (p_data[12] != '3')      //p_data[12] contains the 13th element.
        {
            NRF_LOG_INFO("missing character");
        }
    
        for (uint32_t i = 0; i < data_len; i++)
        {
            ...

    Best regards,

    Edvin

  • Hello again Edvin,

    W/r/t the path the source is our custom board based on the ble_app_uart.  Our board does not use UART, so the path, as I understand it is is:

    my_board.ble_app_uart>ble>DK52.ble_app_uart_c>UART>computer.

    W/r/t missing characters, the paste function on this web page truncates whitespace, so you dont see all the problem.  Yes the first character missing is the 3 from the number 1493, in many cases it is one of the following spaces.  There are 2 spaces between each table entry, so the most common dropped characters are as I said, 16th, 17th, or 18th. Not sure about 17/18 since they are both spaces.  I have since found instances at another location where a digit is replaced by whitespace.

    Data chunk size for each transmission is 20 char including the null.  Each line is made up of several xmitted strings.

    With regard to your code to test, the data is not constant, so I cannot look for a fixed digit. I suppose I could change me code to send constant digits, but that a lot of work right now. 

    Also, where does the log message show in your code mod, the UART?

    I also want to make sure you understand that using the 51 Dongle, THERE ARE NOT PROBLEMS! So, it cannot be missing in the ble xmit, it would have to be a rcv issue in the 52DK.

    I kindly ask that you set up this test and debug, as I do not have the resource to do so easily, and I am certain that nothing in my code is causing the problem.  Can you do this please?  Here is some info on our board so you can emulate if you would:

    nRF51822 running under SDK 12.3,

    app is closely based on ble_app_uart, with string size counting, termination char detection, and a ring_buffer to resolve lost strings.  Her is a snippet of the send chars function:

    static void send_chars(const char * str)
    {
      if (connected)
      {
        uint8_t i = 0;
        while (str[i] != 0x00) 
        {
          i+=1;
        }
        tx_buffer_insert(&m_nus, (uint8_t*)str, i);
        tx_buffer_process();
      }
    }

    and the ring buffer:

    void tx_buffer_process(void)
    {
      if (m_tx_index != m_tx_insert_index)
      {
        uint32_t err_code;
        err_code = ble_nus_string_send(m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].p_nus,
                                       m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].p_data,
                                       m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].length);
        if (err_code == NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
          ++m_tx_index;
          m_tx_index &= TX_BUFFER_MASK;
        }
      }
    }

    Any expeditious help you can offer is greatly appreciated. 

    As I mentioned, this code all works perfectly using and nRF51 dongle under SDK12.3. 

    We are in the process of setting up our production test workstations which, the intentions were, would each service up to 6 of our boards, each via a 52DK, for testing before final assembly.  Boards are due in next week, so I am sure you can understand my fright at not being ready at this point.  We would have continued using the 51 Dongle, but they are getting hard to find and the price is escalating because of that shortage.

    Thank you again,

    All expedience in the matter is greatly appreciated.

    Robin @ TL

  • So, an interesting finding on the tx info insertion:

    I have a command that starts with the lone char "t" and is followed by an index into an array.  This is used to set the radio transmit power.  Not that the two strings that precede the "TX: -30 dBm". and are sent from our board via ble, start with the char 't'.  I changed the command to require more chars, and the insertion stopped.  This indicates that, somehow, this char 't' is being picked up from the incoming 52dk stream and returned to our board on the outgoing 52dk stream, no?

    Hope this is more help and less confusion,

    Robin

    Here is the code for the command that "corrected" the behaviour:

    ...
      else if ((strbuf[0] == 't') &                     // v Command to set ble transmit power
               (strbuf[1] == 'x') &
               (strbuf[2] == 'p') &
               (strbuf[3] == 'w') &
               (strbuf[4] == 'r'))
      {                                               // . Likely not needed for production code TBD
        uint32_t errorcode;
        int8_t powers[] = {-30,-20,-16,-12,-8,-4,0,3,4};
        int numpowers = sizeof(powers)/sizeof(int8_t);
        tmp = atoi(&strbuf[5]);
        if (tmp >= numpowers)
        {
          sprintf(reply,"Value < %d\r\n",numpowers);
          m_send_chars(reply);
          return;
        }
        errorcode = sd_ble_gap_tx_power_set(powers[tmp]);
        if (errorcode == NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
          sprintf(reply,"TX: %d dBm\r\n",powers[tmp]);
          m_send_chars(reply);
          return;
        } 
    ...

    Here is the code before "corrective" changes:

    ...
      else if (strbuf[0] == 't')                      // v Command to set ble transmit power
      {                                               // . Likely not needed for production code TBD
        uint32_t errorcode;
        int8_t powers[] = {-30,-20,-16,-12,-8,-4,0,3,4};
        int numpowers = sizeof(powers)/sizeof(int8_t);
        tmp = atoi(&strbuf[1]);
        if (tmp >= numpowers)
        {
          sprintf(reply,"Value < %d\r\n",numpowers);
          m_send_chars(reply);
          return;
        }
        errorcode = sd_ble_gap_tx_power_set(powers[tmp]);
        if (errorcode == NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
          sprintf(reply,"TX: %d dBm\r\n",powers[tmp]);
          m_send_chars(reply);
          return;
        } 
    ...

    Thx

    Robin @ TL

  • I don't understand the way that you use TX_BUFFER_MASK, e.g. in:

    m_tx_index &= TX_BUFFER_MASK.

    And I don't understand where your last snippets are from. But did those corrections solve your issue?

  • Hi Edvin,

    TX_BUFFER_MASK just masks the ring buffer index to only 32 entries. ( FYI, I got the buffer code from one of your colleagues).  

    The snippets are not correction.  They are troubleshooting efforts to try to find this issue.

    Do you know why any chars would be echoed back to the target over BLE?  That is what appears to be happening.

    Robin @TL 

  • Edvin,

    I found the "cause" of the above insertion of characters. There is a "new feature" in this newer uart central code that, by default, echoes everything back to the target over ble.  (Not sure why anyone would want to do this.  Perhaps you can explain this to me?

    I have changed it and the insertion of characters is fixed.

    from main.c:

    ...
    #define ECHOBACK_BLE_UART_DATA  1                                       /**< Echo the UART data that is received over the Nordic UART Service (NUS) back to the sender. */
    ...
        if (ECHOBACK_BLE_UART_DATA)
        {
            // Send data back to the peripheral.
            do
            {
                ret_val = ble_nus_c_string_send(&m_ble_nus_c, p_data, data_len);
                if ((ret_val != NRF_SUCCESS) && (ret_val != NRF_ERROR_BUSY))
                {
                    NRF_LOG_ERROR("Failed sending NUS message. Error 0x%x. ", ret_val);
                    APP_ERROR_CHECK(ret_val);
                }
            } while (ret_val == NRF_ERROR_BUSY);
        }
    ...

    However it is still dropping characters.

    I now have RTT Viewer up and connected.  If you could guide on how to get these strings echoed to that terminal it would be very helpful.

  • I suggest that if you have the RTT viewer up and running, and you can see the log messages from the application, that you check by sending a fixed string, so that you know what characters you are expecting, and then check if they are missing. It would be interesting to see whether the characters are dropped over the BLE link (which I find unlikely), or if they are dropped in the UART on the central.

    Also, I suggest that you check the return values from your peripheral, inside send_chars():

    static void send_chars(const char * str)
    {
      if (connected)
      {
        uint8_t i = 0;
        while (str[i] != 0x00) 
        {
          i+=1;
        }
        uint32_t err_code;
        tx_buffer_insert(&m_nus, (uint8_t*)str, i);
        err_code = tx_buffer_process();
        if (err_code != NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
            NRF_LOG_INFO("tx_buffer_process returned %x", err_code);
            // Alternatively, APP_ERROR_CHECK(err_code);
        }
      }
    }

    Alternatively, if you don't have logging on your peripheral, you can use APP_ERROR_CHECK(err_code);

    Of course, you would need to make the function return the err_code:

    uint32_t tx_buffer_process(void)
    {
      uint32_t err_code = NRF_SUCCESS;
      if (m_tx_index != m_tx_insert_index)
      {
        
        err_code = ble_nus_string_send(m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].p_nus,
                                       m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].p_data,
                                       m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].length);
        if (err_code == NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
          ++m_tx_index;
          m_tx_index &= TX_BUFFER_MASK;
        }
      }
      return err_code;
    }

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  • I suggest that if you have the RTT viewer up and running, and you can see the log messages from the application, that you check by sending a fixed string, so that you know what characters you are expecting, and then check if they are missing. It would be interesting to see whether the characters are dropped over the BLE link (which I find unlikely), or if they are dropped in the UART on the central.

    Also, I suggest that you check the return values from your peripheral, inside send_chars():

    static void send_chars(const char * str)
    {
      if (connected)
      {
        uint8_t i = 0;
        while (str[i] != 0x00) 
        {
          i+=1;
        }
        uint32_t err_code;
        tx_buffer_insert(&m_nus, (uint8_t*)str, i);
        err_code = tx_buffer_process();
        if (err_code != NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
            NRF_LOG_INFO("tx_buffer_process returned %x", err_code);
            // Alternatively, APP_ERROR_CHECK(err_code);
        }
      }
    }

    Alternatively, if you don't have logging on your peripheral, you can use APP_ERROR_CHECK(err_code);

    Of course, you would need to make the function return the err_code:

    uint32_t tx_buffer_process(void)
    {
      uint32_t err_code = NRF_SUCCESS;
      if (m_tx_index != m_tx_insert_index)
      {
        
        err_code = ble_nus_string_send(m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].p_nus,
                                       m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].p_data,
                                       m_tx_buffer[m_tx_index].length);
        if (err_code == NRF_SUCCESS)
        {
          ++m_tx_index;
          m_tx_index &= TX_BUFFER_MASK;
        }
      }
      return err_code;
    }

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