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using MDBT50Q-U without external 32 mhz crystal

Hi,

I would like to use raytac MDBT50Q-U without an 32 mhz external crystal.

Periphal examples like "blinky" work but ble does not? nrf_sdh_enable_request fails with invalid parameter.

I am using sdk 15.3

Is it possible to use the module without external crystal and what do I need to set? Currently I have following sdk_config.h

// <0=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_RC 
// <1=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_XTAL 
// <2=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_SYNTH 

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC 0
#endif

// <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV - SoftDevice calibration timer interval. 
#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV 4
#endif

// <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV - SoftDevice calibration timer interval under constant temperature. 
// <i> How often (in number of calibration intervals) the RC oscillator shall be calibrated
// <i>  if the temperature has not changed.

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV 1
#endif

// <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY  - External clock accuracy used in the LL to compute timing.
 
// <0=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_250_PPM 
// <1=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_500_PPM 
// <2=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_150_PPM 
// <3=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_100_PPM 
// <4=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_75_PPM 
// <5=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_50_PPM 
// <6=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_30_PPM 
// <7=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_20_PPM 
// <8=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_10_PPM 
// <9=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_5_PPM 
// <10=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_2_PPM 
// <11=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_1_PPM 

#ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY
#define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY 7 // todo was 7
#endif

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  • Hi

    I assume you refer to the 32kHz not being present in the MDBT50Q-U module, right? The nRF52 will not be able to use the SoftDevice at all without the external 32MHz crystal. 

    When running an example on the internal RC oscillator instead of the 32kHz crystal, the following configurations are recommended.

    // </h> 
    //==========================================================
    
    // <h> Clock - SoftDevice clock configuration
    
    //==========================================================
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC  - SoftDevice clock source.
     
    // <0=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_RC 
    // <1=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_XTAL 
    // <2=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_SYNTH 
    
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC 0
    #endif
    
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV - SoftDevice calibration timer interval. 
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV 16
    #endif
    
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV - SoftDevice calibration timer interval under constant temperature. 
    // <i> How often (in number of calibration intervals) the RC oscillator shall be calibrated
    // <i>  if the temperature has not changed.
    
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV 2
    #endif
    
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY  - External clock accuracy used in the LL to compute timing.
     
    // <0=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_250_PPM 
    // <1=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_500_PPM 
    // <2=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_150_PPM 
    // <3=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_100_PPM 
    // <4=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_75_PPM 
    // <5=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_50_PPM 
    // <6=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_30_PPM 
    // <7=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_20_PPM 
    // <8=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_10_PPM 
    // <9=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_5_PPM 
    // <10=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_2_PPM 
    // <11=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_1_PPM 
    
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY 1
    #endif

    Best regards,

    Simon

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  • Hi

    I assume you refer to the 32kHz not being present in the MDBT50Q-U module, right? The nRF52 will not be able to use the SoftDevice at all without the external 32MHz crystal. 

    When running an example on the internal RC oscillator instead of the 32kHz crystal, the following configurations are recommended.

    // </h> 
    //==========================================================
    
    // <h> Clock - SoftDevice clock configuration
    
    //==========================================================
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC  - SoftDevice clock source.
     
    // <0=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_RC 
    // <1=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_XTAL 
    // <2=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_SRC_SYNTH 
    
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_SRC 0
    #endif
    
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV - SoftDevice calibration timer interval. 
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_CTIV 16
    #endif
    
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV - SoftDevice calibration timer interval under constant temperature. 
    // <i> How often (in number of calibration intervals) the RC oscillator shall be calibrated
    // <i>  if the temperature has not changed.
    
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_RC_TEMP_CTIV 2
    #endif
    
    // <o> NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY  - External clock accuracy used in the LL to compute timing.
     
    // <0=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_250_PPM 
    // <1=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_500_PPM 
    // <2=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_150_PPM 
    // <3=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_100_PPM 
    // <4=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_75_PPM 
    // <5=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_50_PPM 
    // <6=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_30_PPM 
    // <7=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_20_PPM 
    // <8=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_10_PPM 
    // <9=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_5_PPM 
    // <10=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_2_PPM 
    // <11=> NRF_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY_1_PPM 
    
    #ifndef NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY
    #define NRF_SDH_CLOCK_LF_ACCURACY 1
    #endif

    Best regards,

    Simon

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