[SAADC] Zephyr's SAADC Driver (DMA Design choices analysis)

Setup:
NCS v2.8.0
nRF52840

Hi,

I would like to ask about the implementation of Zephyr's SAADC driver (`adc_nrfx_saadc.c`).

In the project I'm working on, I need to sample the ADC at 16 kHz.
However, I don't need to process every individual sample in the application. Instead, I would prefer to collect around 320 samples (equivalent to 20 ms of data) and then raise an interrupt. DMA seems like a perfect fit for this use case.

Initially, I thought that by using the `struct adc_sequence_options`—specifically the `extra_samplings` field—the SAADC driver would configure the `RESULT.MAXCNT` register to match the total number of samples (including `extra_samplings`), and thus trigger an interrupt only after all samples had been collected.

However, this does not appear to be the case. For each `adc_sequence` triggered by `adc_read()` or `adc_async_read()`, the driver calls `nrf_saadc_buffer_init()` with a buffer size (`RESULT.MAXCNT`) equal only to the number of channels selected for that sequence.
In my case, with a single channel, this results in `RESULT.MAXCNT = 1`, which causes the SAADC interrupt to fire after each individual sample—even if `extra_samplings` is set to a higher value.

This means the MCU is being interrupted every 62.5 μs, which is far too frequent for my application.

**My questions are:**

0. Am I correct in my understanding above?

1. Why was this design decision made in the SAADC driver implementation? What benefit does it provide?

2. What would be the best way to extend the SAADC driver to fully support single-channel continuous conversion mode, without needing to fork the driver?

3. What happens if an ADC sequence is triggered while another is still running? Will the previous sequence be aborted?

I look forward to your response.

Best regards,
Pawel

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  • The ADC drivers are written with low power usage in mind and not to be compatible to audio frequency.

    I would recommend not to fork the driver but to write a new one from scratch, possibly even without the NRFX hardware abstraction layer, as I have not check if this layer allows high sampling frequencies either.

    The idea is to do something similar to the audio/I²S drivers, particularly how these handle lots of data with the k_mem_slab_ stuff.

  • Thanks, that explains much.

    Would it be possible to use custom ADC driver together with Zephyr's one? 
    Of course with proper synchronization. 

  • Hello,

    For implementing a high-frequency ADC solution you may consider using TIMER and PPI/DPPI to trigger ADC sampling at precise intervals without CPU involvement. This previous case (+) Using nRF52832 ADC for audio encoding - Nordic Q&A - Nordic DevZone - Nordic DevZone described about the implementation of TIMER and PPI.

    For continuous sampling, you can implement double buffering also.

    /* STEP 4.1 - Define the buffer size for the SAADC */
    #define SAADC_BUFFER_SIZE 8000
    
    /* STEP 4.2 - Declare the buffers for the SAADC */
    static int16_t saadc_sample_buffer[2][SAADC_BUFFER_SIZE];
    static uint32_t saadc_current_buffer = 0;
    
    static void saadc_event_handler(nrfx_saadc_evt_t const * p_event)
    {
        nrfx_err_t err;
        switch (p_event->type)
        {
            case NRFX_SAADC_EVT_READY:
                /* STEP 5.1 - Buffer is ready, timer (and sampling) can be started. */
                nrfx_timer_enable(&timer_instance);
                break;
                
            case NRFX_SAADC_EVT_BUF_REQ:
                /* STEP 5.2 - Set up the next available buffer. Alternate between buffer 0
                 * and 1 */
                err = nrfx_saadc_buffer_set(
                    saadc_sample_buffer[(saadc_current_buffer++) % 2], SAADC_BUFFER_SIZE);
                if (err != NRFX_SUCCESS) {
                    LOG_ERR("nrfx_saadc_buffer_set error: %08x", err);
                    return;
                }
                break;
    
            case NRFX_SAADC_EVT_DONE:
                /* STEP 5.3 - Buffer has been filled. Do something with the data */
                int64_t average = 0;
                int16_t max = INT16_MIN;
                int16_t min = INT16_MAX;
                int16_t current_value;
                
                for (int i = 0; i < p_event->data.done.size; i++) {
                    current_value = ((int16_t *)(p_event->data.done.p_buffer))[i];
                    average += current_value;
                    if (current_value > max) {
                        max = current_value;
                    }
                    if (current_value < min) {
                        min = current_value;
                    }
                }
                average = average / p_event->data.done.size;
                LOG_INF("SAADC buffer at 0x%x filled with %d samples",
                        (uint32_t)p_event->data.done.p_buffer, p_event->data.done.size);
                LOG_INF("AVG=%d, MIN=%d, MAX=%d", (int16_t)average, min, max);
                break;
                
            default:
                LOG_INF("Unhandled SAADC evt %d", p_event->type);
                break;
        }
    }

    How to set up double-buffering for continuous SAADC sampling, including the use of two buffers, the event handler, and the use of TIMER and (D)PPI for precise sampling intervals.

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  • Hello,

    For implementing a high-frequency ADC solution you may consider using TIMER and PPI/DPPI to trigger ADC sampling at precise intervals without CPU involvement. This previous case (+) Using nRF52832 ADC for audio encoding - Nordic Q&A - Nordic DevZone - Nordic DevZone described about the implementation of TIMER and PPI.

    For continuous sampling, you can implement double buffering also.

    /* STEP 4.1 - Define the buffer size for the SAADC */
    #define SAADC_BUFFER_SIZE 8000
    
    /* STEP 4.2 - Declare the buffers for the SAADC */
    static int16_t saadc_sample_buffer[2][SAADC_BUFFER_SIZE];
    static uint32_t saadc_current_buffer = 0;
    
    static void saadc_event_handler(nrfx_saadc_evt_t const * p_event)
    {
        nrfx_err_t err;
        switch (p_event->type)
        {
            case NRFX_SAADC_EVT_READY:
                /* STEP 5.1 - Buffer is ready, timer (and sampling) can be started. */
                nrfx_timer_enable(&timer_instance);
                break;
                
            case NRFX_SAADC_EVT_BUF_REQ:
                /* STEP 5.2 - Set up the next available buffer. Alternate between buffer 0
                 * and 1 */
                err = nrfx_saadc_buffer_set(
                    saadc_sample_buffer[(saadc_current_buffer++) % 2], SAADC_BUFFER_SIZE);
                if (err != NRFX_SUCCESS) {
                    LOG_ERR("nrfx_saadc_buffer_set error: %08x", err);
                    return;
                }
                break;
    
            case NRFX_SAADC_EVT_DONE:
                /* STEP 5.3 - Buffer has been filled. Do something with the data */
                int64_t average = 0;
                int16_t max = INT16_MIN;
                int16_t min = INT16_MAX;
                int16_t current_value;
                
                for (int i = 0; i < p_event->data.done.size; i++) {
                    current_value = ((int16_t *)(p_event->data.done.p_buffer))[i];
                    average += current_value;
                    if (current_value > max) {
                        max = current_value;
                    }
                    if (current_value < min) {
                        min = current_value;
                    }
                }
                average = average / p_event->data.done.size;
                LOG_INF("SAADC buffer at 0x%x filled with %d samples",
                        (uint32_t)p_event->data.done.p_buffer, p_event->data.done.size);
                LOG_INF("AVG=%d, MIN=%d, MAX=%d", (int16_t)average, min, max);
                break;
                
            default:
                LOG_INF("Unhandled SAADC evt %d", p_event->type);
                break;
        }
    }

    How to set up double-buffering for continuous SAADC sampling, including the use of two buffers, the event handler, and the use of TIMER and (D)PPI for precise sampling intervals.

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