Can you review my RF curcuit? Will it work?

This is my first time designing rf curcuit.

I refered to reference curcuit on datasheet

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  • Hi,

    Looks like there are still a few connections missing on the layout side like the 32MHz crystal. Its best to copy the reference design if possible, then it will just work, and you seem to have the space for it. 

    For the nRF54L series you need 4 layers and make sure the first innner layer is no more then 100um from the top. 

    Its a good start but a few things are missing, like you do not actually have a antenna, so that needs to be added if you want to have any rage, maybe you would get 1 cm range with the current setup. 


    Here are some links that I think are good that you can go through and once you have done that you can update here with the changes and I will go over everything to make sure it is ok. 


    PCB Antenna - How To Design, Measure And Tune 

     https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/guides/hardware-design-test-and-measuring/b/nrf5x/posts/general-pcb-design-guidelines-for-nrf53-series 
    This is not up to date for the 54 series specifically but it covers all the basics. 


    Here is some info:

    Antenna info: 

    the reference design can be found under the product page on our website. 

    General design guidelines for the nRF51 series can be found on DevZone. 

     

    An alternative is to look at the 52 series, where the radio needs fewer external components, to make it more suitable for a smaller design.  

    General design guidelines for the nRF52 series 

     

    nRF52 dongle 

     

     

    Antenna choice is complex and depends on many factors including technical and commercial considerations. But here are some info:   

     

    Monopole, printed PCB antenna: This is easy to make and easy to tune, you also only need one impedance matching component, so it’s cost effective. Here the spacing is the issues, you need to make it about 23 mm long needs a minimum of 5 mm clearance to the ground plane. High bandwidth, making it fairly resistant to detuning. Link to our whitepaper: https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/pdf/nwp_008.pdf?cp=12_18 

     

     

    Meander antenna, printed PCB antenna, ex. our dongle antenna design: Requires a smaller area than the monopole antenna, but usually requires a pi-network for tuning in addition to length. Lower bandwidth than a quarter wave monopole antenna. Here is a link to our nRF52840 Dongle design files as an example of this: https://www.nordicsemi.com/Software-and-Tools/Development-Kits/nRF52840-Dongle/Download#infotabs 

     

    Chip antenna: Higher BOM, but the antenna is small. The downside is that it usually has less gain. It requires a matching network, based on the vendors recommendations. It has a lower bandwidth than a quarter wave monopole antenna so it can be sensitive to detuning. 

     

    Considering your target of a very small form factor a chip Antenna makes sense but reducing antenna size most often results in reduced performance. Some of the parameters that suffer are: 

     

    Reduced efficiency (or gain) 

    Shorter range 

    Smaller bandwidth 

    Distorted radiation pattern 

    More critical tuning 

    Increased sensitivity to component and PCB spread 

    Increased sensitivity to external factors (“body” effect, ground plane etc.) 

    It is often better not to reduce antenna size too much, if you can avoid it. 

     

     

    As a rule we do not usually recommend specific chip antennas. The selection will depend very much on the end application design, the antenna vendors can assist on choosing the right antenna for a specific design, for example Johanson has a useful tool that helps with this selection: https://www.johansontechnology.com/chip-antenna-selection 

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  • Hi,

    Looks like there are still a few connections missing on the layout side like the 32MHz crystal. Its best to copy the reference design if possible, then it will just work, and you seem to have the space for it. 

    For the nRF54L series you need 4 layers and make sure the first innner layer is no more then 100um from the top. 

    Its a good start but a few things are missing, like you do not actually have a antenna, so that needs to be added if you want to have any rage, maybe you would get 1 cm range with the current setup. 


    Here are some links that I think are good that you can go through and once you have done that you can update here with the changes and I will go over everything to make sure it is ok. 


    PCB Antenna - How To Design, Measure And Tune 

     https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/guides/hardware-design-test-and-measuring/b/nrf5x/posts/general-pcb-design-guidelines-for-nrf53-series 
    This is not up to date for the 54 series specifically but it covers all the basics. 


    Here is some info:

    Antenna info: 

    the reference design can be found under the product page on our website. 

    General design guidelines for the nRF51 series can be found on DevZone. 

     

    An alternative is to look at the 52 series, where the radio needs fewer external components, to make it more suitable for a smaller design.  

    General design guidelines for the nRF52 series 

     

    nRF52 dongle 

     

     

    Antenna choice is complex and depends on many factors including technical and commercial considerations. But here are some info:   

     

    Monopole, printed PCB antenna: This is easy to make and easy to tune, you also only need one impedance matching component, so it’s cost effective. Here the spacing is the issues, you need to make it about 23 mm long needs a minimum of 5 mm clearance to the ground plane. High bandwidth, making it fairly resistant to detuning. Link to our whitepaper: https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/pdf/nwp_008.pdf?cp=12_18 

     

     

    Meander antenna, printed PCB antenna, ex. our dongle antenna design: Requires a smaller area than the monopole antenna, but usually requires a pi-network for tuning in addition to length. Lower bandwidth than a quarter wave monopole antenna. Here is a link to our nRF52840 Dongle design files as an example of this: https://www.nordicsemi.com/Software-and-Tools/Development-Kits/nRF52840-Dongle/Download#infotabs 

     

    Chip antenna: Higher BOM, but the antenna is small. The downside is that it usually has less gain. It requires a matching network, based on the vendors recommendations. It has a lower bandwidth than a quarter wave monopole antenna so it can be sensitive to detuning. 

     

    Considering your target of a very small form factor a chip Antenna makes sense but reducing antenna size most often results in reduced performance. Some of the parameters that suffer are: 

     

    Reduced efficiency (or gain) 

    Shorter range 

    Smaller bandwidth 

    Distorted radiation pattern 

    More critical tuning 

    Increased sensitivity to component and PCB spread 

    Increased sensitivity to external factors (“body” effect, ground plane etc.) 

    It is often better not to reduce antenna size too much, if you can avoid it. 

     

     

    As a rule we do not usually recommend specific chip antennas. The selection will depend very much on the end application design, the antenna vendors can assist on choosing the right antenna for a specific design, for example Johanson has a useful tool that helps with this selection: https://www.johansontechnology.com/chip-antenna-selection 

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