Flashing custom nRF52 (Bootloader, SoftDevice, Application)

[Dani]

Good morning,

Is it always required to use Segger J-Link in order to flash Bootloader, Softdevice and Application to a new device?

Could you summarize the different possibilities we have to flash any of these parts?

Furthermore, and regarding the nRF52840: is it possible to use the USB port to flash the device?

Best regards.

[Toyman]

you need J-Link to flash bootloader. The Softdevice and the application can be flashed OTA

[Vidar Berg]

As Toyman mentioned, you need to program the chip with a bootloader first in order to enable FW update over USB,etc. Different options for programming the chips in production are summarized in this guide: http://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/com.nordic.infocenter.gs/dita/gs/prod_test_prog.html?cp=1_0_6  

[Dani]

Thank you so much for your answer.

It will perfect to flash everything at once the first time, but later on, I will need the device to be updated via BLE (just the application).

Will the Segger ARM Flasher also work to flash everything?

Best regards,

Dani

[Vidar Berg]

You can flash everything at once regardless of what programmer you use, but you may want to merge the hex files first to speed up the process a bit. See Merging files with mergehex

[Dani]

Good morning,

I have suceeded in programming both softdevice and application with J-Flash tool by Segger and ARM flasher. It is perfectly working-

Now, I want to also include bootloader in order to have BLE-DFU implemented. I have created private_key following steps detailed in DFU_Step_by_step. I have merged bootloader, softdevice and application with J-Flash tool but device is not working. I suppose that it is a problem related with addresses. Is there any explanation showing which addresses to consider for all of this three parts in what regards the nRF52840 device?

Furthermore, is it required to create the zip file using this?:

nrfutil pkg generate --hw-version 52 --application-version 1 --application nrf52832_xxaa.hex --sd-req 0x98 --key-file private.key app_dfu_package.zip

I suppose this is only required when carrying out a BLE-DFU operation, right? 

Apart of this: in my application I have some preserved data: I have set FDS_VIRTUAL_PAGES to 5 and preserved data is working without Bootloader. Do I have to consider something new with this preserved data when including bootloader? Is re-adressing carried out automatically?

All the best,

Dani

[Dani]

Hi again,

I have already found this: I had to create the bootloader setting.

Now, the application starts working but, when it has to start advertising, it seems to be hung!!!! do you know which can be the reason?

So,

- How can I debug my application when bootloader is present?

- What about preserved data? Have I to consider extra settings when bootloader is present?

Best regards,

Dani.

[Vidar Berg]

Hi Dani,

Yes, the settings page is needed to tell the bootloader that you have a valid application, it will fall back to DFU mode otherwise. As for debugging the app, you can do that after you've loaded the settings page. Just make sure to disable boot validation option in the settings page to allow the bootloader to boot the app even if it has been modified. 

Dani said:

What about preserved data? Have I to consider extra settings when bootloader is present

 FDS automatically detects the presence of the bootloader and places the data below the bootloader instead of placing it at the end of flash, see Memory layout. Also, the NRF_DFU_APP_DATA_AREA_SIZE flag inside the bootloader must correspond to the number of FDS pages allocated by the app to ensure app data is preserved data through DFU. The default is usually 3 pages. 

Best regards,

Vidar

[Dani]

Hi Vidar,

Thank you again for your answers.

Which settings page are you referring to in your last answer?

Should the 'NRF_DFU_APP_DATA_AREA_SIZE ' parameter also be modified in the 'nrf_dfu_types.h' file when including this file (DFU service) into the application?

I'm working with Keil...

Best regards,

Dani.

[Vidar Berg]

Hi Dani,

I was referring to the bootloader settings page. The NRF_DFU_APP_DATA_AREA_SIZE flag is only used by the bootloader. 

Best regards,

Vidar

[Dani]

Hi Vidar,

And what about the settings page that is needed to be modified for debugging?

Where is it? Which settings page are you referring to?

Best regards,

Dani

[Vidar Berg]

Dani said:

I have already found this: I had to create the bootloader setting.

I'm referring to bootloader settings page that I assume you've created with nrfutil. Nrfutil has an option (as shown in screenshot) to disable boot validation of the app. 

[Dani]

Hi Vidar,

I have succeeded in implementing Buttonless DFU into my prototype and it is working with nRF connect by Nordic: I have created the zip file containing my application and I was able to update the application via DFU using this tool.

The problem is that it takes more than one minute with DFU in 'initializing' state --> please look at the first screenshot showing this situation. After this minute, it starts transferring the file, and once the file is completely transferred, my device is reseted and new application starts working. So,

- Why is it taking such a long time initializing? 

- Is it related to application size (zip file size is 131KB)?

When DFU procedure is working, what does it mean? Is it refering to BLE transfer or to the new application transfer inside device memory?

Best regards,

Dani.