Certification/Evaluation for product

[bscdb]

Hi,

Our product uses Fanstel BM832 chip. As per https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/qualification-listing/qualification-listing-fees/, should we opt for Innovation Incentive Program (IIP) as a startup? I did not understand exactly what certifications/qualifications should our product have coz we are using your software stack. What happens if bluetooth trademark logos are not used? Since your chip is qualified, do we need to follow the qualification process?

Do we first need to apply for membership? - https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/join/membership-benefits/

& 

then also pay for listing fee? - https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/qualification-listing/qualification-listing-fees/

which means 8k(adopter member: product listing fee) + 2.5k(declaration/listing fee - IIP)?

Thanks, your guidance will be highly appreciated.

[Øyvind]

Hello, 

the Fanstel BM832 is listed as pre-certified 3rd party module, the full list is found here. 

As per https://www.bluetooth.com/develop-with-bluetooth/qualification-listing/qualification-listing-fees/, should we opt for Innovation Incentive Program (IIP) as a startup?

Yes, the IIP seems correct if you are a start-up with less than one million in revenues and no prior product listings. More information can be found here

I did not understand exactly what certifications/qualifications should our product have coz we are using your software stack

  In our Infocenter, you can find more information on certifications/qualifications. (Edit: Updated to correct link)

What happens if bluetooth trademark logos are not used?

 Please see the Bluetooth SIG governing documents here.

Since your chip is qualified, do we need to follow the qualification process?

 Please see this thread regarding certification on 3rd party modules.

Do we first need to apply for membership?

 Yes, our customers are typical applying for the Adopter Membership.

then also pay for listing fee?

 After applying for your membership, you may pay for the IIP listing fee as an adopter member.

which means 8k(adopter member: product listing fee) + 2.5k(declaration/listing fee - IIP)?

  Yes, from what I can see, this is correct.

Let me know if you have any further questions! 

Kind regards,
Øyvind

[bscdb]

Thanks for this detailed information! Can you resend me other link instead of https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/index.jsp?topic=%252Fcom.nordic.infocenter.gs%252Fdita%252Fgs%252Fcertifying.html? This one doesnt open. 

[Øyvind]

I'm sorry, not sure what happened with that link. Please try this one:

https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/topic/ug_getting_started/UG/gs/certifying.html

[bscdb]

Thanks a lot!! This link works!!

[Øyvind]

Glad to hear!

[bscdb]

hey I had one more question... Should the uuid for custom gatt also be registered with Bluetooth Sig?

[Øyvind]

Hello, sorry for the delayed answer. 
 

bscdb said:

Should the uuid for custom gatt also be registered with Bluetooth Sig?

No, usually the UUID is generated "randomly", and the chance of two UUID generated being the same is statistically very low.

Edit: Another colleague made me aware of this program that members can buy a 16-bit UUID:
https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/assigned-numbers/16-bit-uuids-for-members/

[bscdb]

Thank you. Do we need to do the RF or any other testing (as a part of certification process) if we use your bluetooth module in our circuit? We used your schematic as a reference and its mostly the same, maybe just a GPIO might be used for additional purpose, mostly connected to other microcontroller.

[Øyvind]

bscdb said:

if we use your bluetooth module in our circuit? We used your schematic as a reference and its mostly the same, maybe just a GPIO might be used for additional purpose, mostly connected to other microcontroller.

I'm confused. Are you using the Fanstel BM832 which already is certified:

• FCC ID: X8WBM832

• IC (Industrial Canada) ID: 4100A-BM832

• Europe: Certified

• Japan TELEC: 201-180924

• Australia: Certified

• QDID: 97989.

Please clarify what schematics you are using and what you mean with "your Bluetooth module". If you are using the Fanstel BM832 module, then you will not need extra certifications which is the advantage of using these modules.

Thanks!
Kind regards,
Øyvind