nrf21540 SPI communication voltage level problem

[Dominik Eugster]

Hi

I connected the nRF21540 to a nRF52840 like in the application notes.

Here is the schematic:

I implemented the driver and now I try to communicate over the SPI with the nRF21540.

First, I try to read the Partnumber. When I set the power dowen off, the SPI signals are ok, but of course I have no feedback from the MISO.

yellow is the SP I Clock, green is MISO, orange is MOSI, lila is ChipSelect

Signals ok:

As soon as I set PowerDown = ON = nRF21540 enabled, the second SPI MOSI pulse is there, but really low (nRF21540 pulls down the level!)

What is the reason of this and how this can be solved?

Reagrds

[Dominik Eugster]

If I set the ChipSelect line manually to low without the SPI driver functions, the 0x94h is transferred correctly, even there is no feedback from the  MISO line, why? commnd 0x94 is correct, isn't it?

0x94 = 0b1001 0100

= 10 (read) and 010100 = 0x14 = PartNumber

[Dominik Eugster]

And if I use the nrfx driver, the MOSI signal switch back to high level with a courve, I think there is a bug on the nRF21540 or the driver? Please get in contact asap.

[JONATHAN LL]

Hi Dominik,

The nrf21540 does not need to be in UICR program mode to red part number. As you can see in table 1 here.


Needs to be in program mode(PG).

Regards,
Jonathan

[Dominik Eugster]

ok, and to set the nrf21540 in PG mode, I have to send over SPI

Write Enable to field UICR_EN in register CONFREG1 to enable UICR Program state. -> 0xC1 0x04

Write Enter to field KEY in register CONFREG1 to enter UICR Program state. -> 0xC1 0xF4

Read the PartNumber -> 0x94 0x00

-> still no Feedback on the MISO line!

Whats wrong? There are only some commands, It can't be so difficult to read out the PartNumber. Can you please tell me what is missing in the communication codes or which PIN is special to drive or anything else?

[Dominik Eugster]

If I like to write in CONFREG1 0x1, the first byte will be:

0b11 (write) 10 000 (Confreg1) = 0b1110 0000 = 0xE0?

A value for CONFREG0 can be 0x7C = 0b0111 1100 ?

                                                //TX disabled, TX_Gain = POUTA,
                                                //TX_GAIN TX gain = 31 control (0: minimum, 31: maximum)

[Dominik Eugster]

Its running now, i had a problem with the chip and the MISO / MOSI Pin definition.

Here is the feedback for the PartNumber (0x0C)

What should be the Input Power from the nRF52840 to the nRF21540? +0dB? or can I use +8dB or will this destroy the nRF21540?

In the datasheet its written max +5dBm. Pin_Ant is max +15dBm, but this is an output PIN. How should this be interpreted?

Thanks for reply

[Dominik Eugster]

Hi

I'm measuring the RF dBm and saw that Confreg0 can change the TX gain like in the datasheet.

But when I write 0x7F and read back the 0x7F the dBM in the same range is about -70dBm. If I set 0xFF to Confreg0 the dBM is about -20dBm. Can anybody explain this? Its not accoring to the datasheet what the nRF21540 should do...

[JONATHAN LL]

How are you measuring the output power?

[Dominik Eugster]

Dominik Eugster said:

I'm measuring the RF dBm and saw that Confreg0 can change the TX gain like in the datasheet.

But when I write 0x7F and read back the 0x7F the dBM in the same range is about -70dBm. If I set 0xFF to Confreg0 the dBM is about -20dBm. Can anybody explain this? Its not accoring to the datasheet what the nRF21540 should do...

Hi JONATHAN LL and can you please explain me this.

[Dominik Eugster]

which value is needed in ConfReg0 to enable X gain with 31, Mode = POUTA (20dBm), TX disabled?

Dominik Eugster said:

I'm measuring the RF dBm and saw that Confreg0 can change the TX gain like in the datasheet.

But when I write 0x7F and read back the 0x7F the dBM in the same range is about -70dBm. If I set 0xFF to Confreg0 the dBM is about -20dBm. Can anybody explain this? Its not accoring to the datasheet what the nRF21540 should do...

Hi JONATHAN LL and can you please explain me this.

[JONATHAN LL]

Hi,

Closest we have to an example is the radio test sample, https://github.com/nrfconnect/sdk-nrf/tree/v1.9.1/samples/peripheral/radio_test/src. 

When you sett 0xFF do you read back 0xFF also ? 

Are you doing radiated or conducted measurements when you measure the dBm?


Regards,
Jonathan

[Dominik Eugster]

Hi

Yes, I read back 0xFF also, on the Oscilloscope and on the SPI Software Debugger.

I measure with teh android App nRF Connect, I dopn't kow how this Nordic App calculates the dB.

Are there any plots of the RX / TX regarding this post?

https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/85727/rx-enable-time-on-the-pa-lna-driver-for-nrf21540

Thanks a lot