nRF5340 clock sources

[Hiihtaja]

Hello !

It is not so clear default clock sources on nRF5340 app and net cores.

1.

As zephyr clock sources, SYSTICK timers are in use in both cores and timer clocking from external 32kHz XTAL oscillator.

Is this so ?

Should I specify  CONFIG_CLOCK_CONTROL_NRF_K32SRC_XTAL=y in prj.conf this line and for what core ?

2. RTCx timers is not used by default.

if I need to use those ( RTC0 on app core, RTC1 on net core), I should specify CONFIG_CLOCK_CONTROL_NRF_K32SRC_XTAL=y on both core's configuration ?

3. App core CPU clock is 128Mhz by default.

How to be sure if it clocked from XTAL oscillator ?

How to change clock to 64Mhz ?

4. Net core CPU clock is 64 Mhz by default.

How I be sure if it clocked from crystal oscillator ?

I can see clock_init() what use

clk_mgr = z_nrf_clock_control_get_onoff(CLOCK_CONTROL_NRF_SUBSYS_HF);

Should I use this code for app core as well or only on net core ?

On net core I use NRF_TIMER2 and RADIO and they need to be clocked form HF XTAL.

Regards,

Eugene

[Jared]

Hi,

It's best to specify for each core what clock source they should run at. 

The RTC is not a viable clock source for the Low Frequency Controller. 

The documentation states:

Each core has a number of low frequency clock (LFCLK) control instances. Each instance distributes one or more clocks to the core.

The LFCLK control instance in each core distributes the 32.768 kHz PCLK32KI peripheral clock to its corresponding core. The LFCLK clock is sourced from the power and clock subsystem to each LFCLK control instance.

In order to generate the LFCLK clock, the LFCLK controller uses the following LFCLK sources:
32.768 kHz RC oscillator (LFRC)
32.768 kHz crystal oscillator (LFXO)
32.768 kHz synthesized from HFCLK (LFSYNT)

The RTC will run off the LFCLK.

When started, the RTC will automatically request the LFCLK source with RC oscillator if the LFCLK is not already running.

You can check what clock source the LFCLK is running at by checking the LFCLKSTAT register.

regards

Jared 

[Hiihtaja]

Hi Jared !

But what about HFLK XTAL. Should I do some enabling of it ?

Some radio samples requiest it by _nrf_clock_control_get_onoff(CLOCK_CONTROL_NRF_SUBSYS_HF);

other not.

Regards,

Eugene

[Jared]

Hi,

It depends, what do you want to use it for? 

regards

Jared

[Hiihtaja]

Hi Jared !

I need high precise clocking on net core for Timers and radio.

Regards,

Eugene

[Jared]

Hi,

Yes, but are you using proprietary protocols, is it based on our drivers or are you doing it bare metal?

If you're using our drivers then it's usually taken care of but you need to specify what you're doing with the radio. 

For example, are you using the Softdevice Controller?

Starting the HFXO is a prerequisite for using the radio, it will not work with any other clock source. 

regards

Jared 

[Hiihtaja]

Hi Jared !

I'm not using Sofdevice. Net core have one IPC channel with app core ( Like in sample). And after that own radio, timer2 and DPPI channels. nrf and nfrx API and direct access to registers in use.

What is right way for wakeup HFXO  ?

Regards,

Eugene

[ovrebekk]

Hi Eugene

Jared is currently out of office, and I will help you out in the mean time. 

As it happens the proprietary ESB protocol also require you to start the HFXO manually, and you can see how the samples do it here. 

If you are doing something proprietary I would recommend having a look at the ESB protocol, as it handles a lot of the low level radio management for you. 

Best regards
Torbjørn 

[Hiihtaja]

Hi Torbjørn  !

I have printed few registers on netcore :

[00:00:00.007,049] <inf> xxx: NRF_CLOCK->HFCLKSRC : 0x00000001
[00:00:00.007,049] <inf> xxx: NRF_CLOCK->HFCLKSTAT : 0x00010001
[00:00:00.007,080] <inf> xxx: NRF_CLOCK->LFCLKSRC : 0x00000002
[00:00:00.007,080] <inf> xxx: NRF_CLOCK->LFCLKSTAT : 0x00010002

Looks like both oscillators start properly,

Do you have idea if any extra clocks need to be enabled in case of DPP usage ?

They dosn't work in way like in your radio drivers and may be Zephyr or others have enabled extra configurations ?

Regards,

Eugene

 

[ovrebekk]

Hi Eugene

Hiihtaja said:

Do you have idea if any extra clocks need to be enabled in case of DPP usage ?

I assume you mean DPPI?

The DPPI controller will request a high frequency clock source whenever it needs to send a signal from one peripheral to another. 

The DPPI does not need to use external crystal for the HF clock. If the HFXO is running it will use it, otherwise it will simply use the internal RC oscillator (which starts up much quicker). 

Are you having problems getting your DPPI channels to work?

Best regards
Torbjørn